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Messages - AeonBlues
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« on: September 20, 2007, 05:34:29 pm »
*Nyeaeana sends a falcon message to Jin Lun Lee, leader of the Farstrider's and cleric of Folian*
Dear Jin Lun Lee,
My good hearted friends and champions of causes you would support, are getting in trouble because I am in church of Kithairien.
I always agreed with and liked Folian's beliefs and ways as they are *scratch marks* consistent with druid ways.
If you think Folian would take me into his grace, please inform me a good time and place for us to meet and discuss this.
Nyeaeana
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« on: September 20, 2007, 05:09:02 pm »
*grumbles* I admit I overstated things in my first post, and I apologize for that. We acknowledge that this is not about Rose, Nyeaeana, and Clarissa, though they are severely effected by this policy. Being told that my character is not going to be able to function as a team with the group that he most often adventures with is not an easy lump for me to swallow. That being said, as it is required for druids to have a patron deity, I will review my options for finding my character a new faith for political reasons. My first impression was that Nyeaeana would not want to change faiths for an OOC reason, but it definitely is an IC development, and druids are political by nature  And I will get over this  By the way, this thread has made for some very interesting reading. AeonBlues
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« on: September 20, 2007, 12:36:30 am »
Since when did Toran or Kithairien really care about the Great Cycle? And pray tell, who is this grave enemy that threatens both Toran and Kithairien...so much so that either god would say, "Hey, let's overlook the whole mutual enemy thing so that these few folks can do battle against it." Corath is the enemy of both Toran and Kithairien. As a druid, Nye seems himself as a protector of the great cycle and destroyer of undead. "Returning them to the cycle" as he says. As far as I'm concerned he should be a druid first, and a Kithairienite second. A cleric of any deity does not have the same luxury, as there is no separation between deity and ability. This is one of the reasons why this IC friendship exists. I do play my character this way, so a lot of the deity relation conflicts have not existed, while some have and have been played out to a great extent. Simply put, Nye can't go into the situations this group does with out a cleric backing him up. Like, if he gets severely wounded, he dies if he changes shape to heal him self. While yah I am not getting sympathy about the heal potions, a lot of place are built to kill characters that don't have a cleric casting heal spells. The problem that I am having is not that these characters should have some conflicts. These problems have gone to the extent that Nye has walked away and left the group in the middle of adventures, and at one time he was almost asked not to adventure with them any more because he was fighting so much over leadership and decision making issues. Now, correct me if I am wrong on this point, but the policy flat out states that any cleric is forbidden to cast any spells on any character that has an enemy deity, on penalty of having their powers taken away. Now I really want to make sure I understand this correctly, because if this is true, then this policy is going to end not just a friendship that my character has established, but it is also going to end his relationship with the most significant group of adventures he associates with. AeonBlues
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« on: September 19, 2007, 11:06:30 pm »
@ miltonyorkcastle: Besides NEP, DW, & SR, there is always good old Heal spells. It takes Nye like 4 hours in game to make 4 Heal potions. Think every time Rose casts a Heal, she is saving me an hour of boring tedious chore work.
Let me turn the issue around on you. Give me one good reason why Toran would happily and willingly overlook one of his clerics/paladins/champions repeatedly bestowing his divine gifts, especially those of Raise/Resurrection, upon a follower of an enemy diety without so much as a displeasing look. Why would he sanction that?
Because Toran is nice?
Maybe he is, but he still has his enemies, and that which strengthens his enemies weakens Toran.
Because they are working together to fight a greater enemy, an enemy that both their deities share. Because while my character's alignment does not reflect his deities. While he doesn't respect laws, he doesn't go out of his way to break them either. Because in the protection of the great cycle, my character does a lot more things that Toran would like then he would have a problem with. I fully understand the importance of deity relations. I fully understand that Layo has been around a lot longer then I have been playing on Layo. As sated though, I have seen many examples where the extreme problem had a serious effect on others. I also strongly believe that for RP to have real meaning and depth, characters have to freedom to develop relationships where the issues are more complex then a policy that can be cut and pasted onto the back of a box of cracker-jax. Really great RP comes from the complexity of character development and relations. AeonBlues
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« on: September 19, 2007, 10:27:13 pm »
Everyone keeps bring out the extreme example of deity X vs. Corath. Be careful about extreme examples as when rules are based on extreme examples will have extreme effects on lesser examples.
I thank Pibemanden acknowledging that end in game friendships that maybe should not have been formed so strongly in the first place. The fact is if Rose can not cast spell on Nye, then they are going to fail to function as a cohesively in a group. This is going to tear my character out of a group of friend that he has developed relationships with to the point where these Toranites stop in their tracks when passing a bear, and agree to not chop down trees for the extra wood. But there is no way Nyeaeana is going to let his friend Rose lose her powers over him.
To say "You can be friends and you can be in a party but if Character A casts spells on character B, then character A is going to have their powers taken away...." This leaves me thinking, "Yah right" Basically we can chat in town, but we can't adventure together.
Dorganath, I am reading very clearly that this is not being targeted at any individual. The problem I have here is this policy is effectively scratching six months of RP development between two characters. Quite frankly, I am more frustrated by this, then having a character permed.
AeonBlues
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« on: September 19, 2007, 08:33:44 pm »
For clarification, what about buff spells?
For the meat of what I have to say....
While there might be a more extreme example out there of enemy deity relations, am strongly suspecting this issues has arisen from the friendship between Rose cleric of Toran and Nyeaeana the Kithairien druid. The reason why I suspect this is because we have had not one but at least a couple of DMs talk to us about this.
This frustrates me, as the DMs come in, have no idea about the character back grounds and history of this friendship, and expect us to RP our characters to some kind of pre written script. In this case Nye is a protector and follower of the great cycle above the worship of his deity, which is acceptable as written in lore on druids. Now perhaps for different reasons, Toran and Kithairien are both enemies of Corath. Nye sees undead as a blaspheme to the great cycle. Thus these characters work together to fight common enemies.
Another point is that the reason Toran and Kithairien are enemies is because Torn upholds laws, and Kithairien dogma is largely about opposing laws. Nyeaeana is not CN, he is TN. So the issue Nye breaking laws doesn't come up, but Drama with a capital "D" has surfaced many times with leadership issues as he will not accept any individual as his leader, who's orders he must follow.
Now I think the RP drama that has and continues to exist should be sufficient for the DMs. What happens is that DMs work with a limited understanding of the characters stories and RP personalities, and then make large assumptions.
Please realize that if you enforce this policy on Rose, then you are breaking up a significant part of my RP community here on Layo. To say that she can't heal or raise Nye because of his deity which he values less then his devotion to the great cycle, and his commitment to combat the enemies that him and Rose share seems entirely unreasonable to me.
Now I want to say also that both Dalia and Skywatcher can verify that Nye has stretched the IC RP vs OOC boundary for the protecting the greater good of our Layona community. When I read Leanthar's post and this thread, I feel that a significant part of the community and friendships that I have developed is being attacked. I am on the campaign bandwagon that we need to do every thing we can to make every member of this community feel welcome and appreciated. To say that say that Rose is forbidden to heal Nye is a real big slap in the face to me. It undermines our characters background. It undermines the the community and friendships that I have established.
In my opinion, DMs should have all the information on their scales before they start dishing out punishments based on deity relations. If they make a decision with out weighing all the facts, then they are going to make players not want to play on Layonara, and our community is going to become a bit smaller.
AeonBlues
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« on: September 09, 2007, 03:50:45 pm »
For the record. The problem when too many items were dropping was reported a couple weeks quicker, then this issue of not enough coins.
Love you guys.
AeonBlues
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« on: September 06, 2007, 03:44:32 pm »
God must really like me. Lord knows why.
AeonBlues
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« on: August 31, 2007, 07:02:00 pm »
Now we are just getting silly. One of the things I noticed at a young age is that people tend to manifest drama for no good reasons. In later years I decided that this is a primal instinct. You see, every animal on the earth except for many of the humans, live day by day struggling to survive in a world of predators. Always on the search for food, and always weary of what is trying to eat them. Most of us humans have broken away from this life pattern. Thus we manifest imaginary drama for the sake of fulfilling our need for fight or flight instinct and survival.
Maybe if some people would get out and hunt more. Glory in the blood on their blades, and feeling of doom and despair as their characters exploded into a pool of blood with the soul mother yanking yet another strand.... Maybe then these people would stop complaining about everyone else and their problems.
And please do not flame me. As much as I shrug off being flamed, it still hurts.
AeonBlues
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« on: August 30, 2007, 03:46:38 am »
Nyeaena was approved on Feb 08, 2007 and is now level 22...*blinks, blinks*
Hunting what?
You can RP anything you want to justify your actions. But I do agree that if a players has a lot of time to play and all the player does is 'hunt', yeah the character is going to level fast. What ever is fun for the player, I guess is what it boils down to.
To each his own. I think the point is, that even though he levels fast, he is always involved with interesting RP. I like to have my cake and eat it too. I enjoy the challenge and tactics of combat, but with out the good RP, I would lose any sense of immersion, and the immersion is vital to my enjoyment. AeonBlues
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« on: August 30, 2007, 02:42:07 am »
I like the level system on Layo. I played on a NWN2 server, and one of the things that turned me off, was how easy it was to make levels. I love the RP on layo. Everywhere I go, there is good RP happening. There have been several ocasions when I bailed from a party that was focused on grinding XP and not RPing. That hasn't happened for a long time, and generally was because of one person not waiting for others.
One of my characters could be considered a fast leveler. If he was leveling any faster then he is, I would lose interest in him as a character. Mind you, making levels is not my primary goal. I like to hunt. I made a character thats dogma and background are about hunting. He comes from a tribe of hunter gatherers. He hunts. As a consequence, he makes levels. So, as stated, I like things the way they are.
I currently have 3 characters, and I have no worries about when the server ends. My enjoyment is not being gathered at some later point in time. My enjoyment is now. The fun I have playing my characters can never be taken away. I have fun, and when layo NWN goes down, I can say, "Thanks, I had a lot of fun, and I am looking forward to the new thing."
There is plenty for characters at any level to be involved with, both inside of quest events and out. When there is not much for one to do, there is something going on for another. There is always interesting dialog, character development, stories and lore being shared. When people talk about how RP is suffering, it kind of frustrates me. Like, where are you? How can I play 3 different characters, and find good RP everywhere I go, and alls you see is people grinding XP?
AeonBlues
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« on: August 26, 2007, 09:15:07 pm »
I would offer 500 trues for both boxes.
Johnathan Wainwright
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« on: August 22, 2007, 06:23:01 pm »
Luck is a strange and quirky thing. While not in the present, in the past I spent 3 years playing poker as my only source of income. The funny thing about randomness, is at times it seem entirely not random. Every poker player at times suspects the game is rigged. "I just lost to 1 in 20 shots, 6 times in a row." Well, when you have played hundreds of thousands of hands of poker, you begin to anticipate these losing streaks.
It is my experience that people notice extreme bad luck more then they do extreme good luck. For instance, there have been several posts about how a character failed on X number of consecutive crafting attempts at 75%+, and none stating "Wow, I made 9 out of 10 successes at 25%"
So, for every character that loses 6 SS by level 10 with 20 deaths, there is going to be another character that dies the same number of times and lose 0 or 1.
By the way, bad luck I have given the term "Reverse lotto effect" Like hitting the bad luck lotto.
AeonBlues
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« on: August 22, 2007, 05:06:25 am »
Miss Drexia,
If you would not consider it too much trouble, could you possibly fabricate a pair of boots for myself, made from the skin of a boar. I hear your boots are the finest in the land.
Johnathan Wainwright
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« on: August 22, 2007, 04:58:57 am »
If Wren don want dat Enchanted Shadow Balor Horn, Oi beh happy ta put da trues in ya hand.
Boltar Storm'Hammer
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« on: August 21, 2007, 07:56:41 pm »
Wow, you're still going...
1) It's not changing so you may want to get over it.
2) If anyone can show me on paper that this yields more experience then the standard Belinara areas where you are mass hasted and with spells, then I'll be impressed... because it's impossible. Even with the feeling of great success in there, you're netting about one third of what you would in the same amount of time in a magic zone with the same CR. I did say it was beautiful looking. I like it as my character is not a spell caster. I think it is a fun and challenging place to. I was throwing out some opinions... I fully admit, and you can quote me on this, that my opinions are flawed at least twice as often as my facts. I just worry about other people being happy and not feeling left out. I am sorry if I offended you dude. AeonBlues
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« on: August 21, 2007, 06:25:50 am »
*does a 180* and that no magic zone is mad XP for a place where there is not much point of resting.
AeonBlues and his shifty eyed looks
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« on: August 20, 2007, 11:46:24 pm »
I agree with what Halfwit is saying about the GIANORMOUS no magic zone. It makes mages and some clerics almost worthless. That area gets a *big thumbs down* It is nice looking though AeonBlues
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« on: August 20, 2007, 10:44:53 pm »
*big thumbs up*
I think the new rest system promotes better RP.
I also just want to say, that some of the reasons behind this are the actions of a few. Like mages that blast all their spells to maximize XP from kills, and then demand rests. For the most part, we are all guilty of resting too often. Most players have fallen into the Rest, Buff, go kill more stuff. Which I think is a bad RP pattern. The only time we slow down is when someone is afk or crashes. So, this is why I like the new system. I think it promotes better RP, and makes Layo more consistent with PNP.
That being said, one of the draw backs is that this system is going to be harder on multi class characters. Many multi class characters are RP builds by the way. It is my experience, that it is characters built for RP that suffer most greatly when things are balanced to challenge the more powerful characters.
AeonBlues
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« on: August 20, 2007, 04:49:19 pm »
I like the new Rest timer. I think it will promote better RP. Besides that we obviously have to conserve spells better. I think it will also where we actually build a camp fire, and provide more RP time, as oppose to Rest, buff, and go. Also we will have to find safer places to make rest time, which is also better RP.
As far as the new terrain. I am speechless. I had no idea NWN could be so good.
AeonBlues
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