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Leanthar

Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« on: January 31, 2006, 11:03:51 am »
I want to let everybody know (though I thought it was pretty obvious--but I guess not) that you should not be going in to a temple and doing things like in this album http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?al.... This would never happen if there was a GM on and running a quest and as such should not happen when we are not around. This is an abuse of the AI system (IE. nothing we can do when there is not a GM around).
  There will most certainly be dire consequences for this character (character--not player), as well the GM will be speaking to anybody we see doing silly things like this.
 

Varnart

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Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 12:16:34 pm »
Heh, that actually was a bit on purpose. Taislin's life has been lacking some spice, and as such, in his vast halfling wisdom, he decided to do something that would make him have some fun. It was not my intent to abuse the AI system, I just felt like doing something halflingly stupid. If it's your wish, I promise I won't do it again. I'm not trying, in any way, to get you not to punish my character, just saying so that I don't start a small flame war with it.
 

Ar7

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 12:32:47 pm »
Halfling tired of living? I am not trying to think out punishments here, but death is a logical conclusion when one spits on the altar in the temple. I would like to see a god that would let a person walk the land after this. And if the word spreads on Layonara, I imagine what other characters will think of Mist, atleast I know what the Corath people will think.

This action can have serious IC concequences.
 

Nyralotep

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 04:23:39 pm »
If Amaduena finds out IC about the incident she will fully support the Lady and her temple in punishing the offender (character).
 

miltonyorkcastle

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2006, 06:12:45 am »
///while fully expecting Taislin to catch hell and fury (mostly by agents of Mist sent to exact punishment, rather than by the god herself), Cole would laugh hard if he heard what Tailsin did.  He would probably laugh until he cried.  The joke of "the halfling that spit on Mist's alter" would quickly spread across Leilon, and all but the most devout of Mist would laugh at the "wisdom of a halfling."  Smooth move, Halfling.  Piss off the most unpredicatable and ferocious god up there.  Good luck, little chap.  You're going to need it.  And I wouldn't suggest ever getting on a boat again...
 

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RE: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 07:04:33 am »
Just to play devil's advocate - you could look at it a little differently. Since Mist is so unpredictable she may just like the fact that Taislin annointed her altar with some of his own water (his spit). She may just see that he was just wanting her attention and make him one of her priests. Then again - maybe not.
 

ZeroVega

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 07:07:00 am »
Quote: Varnart - Posted 1/31/2006 3:16 PM

"Heh, that actually was a bit on purpose. Taislin's life has been lacking some spice, and as such, in his vast halfling wisdom, he decided to do something that would make him have some fun. It was not my intent to abuse the AI system, I just felt like doing something halflingly stupid. If it's your wish, I promise I won't do it again. I'm not trying, in any way, to get you not to punish my character, just saying so that I don't start a small flame war with it." End Quote:

The problem isn't that you disrespected a god, or that you did it in her own temple, or that you felt like spicing up your characters life. It's that you did it in a setting that allowed for no action to be taken. No GM was present thus the clerics of Mist who were in the Temple could do nothing to stop you and no PCs were around to give you a lecture (since PvP is illeagal).

See, had you felt like giving it some good RP, you could have asked for a GM to be present while you went about your disrespectful ritual. As it would have been, Taislin would probably have been killed or dismemberd, however now it gets complicated because we have to respond in a late fashion. Needless to say, you will probably have a bullseye target on your back for a while. Oh... and what Cole said... don't take boats...
 

Leanthar

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 07:15:54 am »
"...The problem isn't that you disrespected a god, or that you did it in her own temple, or that you felt like spicing up your characters life. It's that you did it in a setting that allowed for no action to be taken. No GM was present thus the clerics of Mist who were in the Temple could do nothing to stop you and no PCs were around to give you a lecture (since PvP is illeagal)..."

That is exactly correct and stated better than I stated it, thank you. I don't mind the disrepecting of deities at all (but be prepared for the deities wrath to be unleashed), it is when it is done in that fashion when it becomes a problem.
 

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Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 03:40:01 pm »
someone tell me WHY this server doesn't have PvP? :)
 

ZeroVega

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 03:46:46 pm »
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Eloyn - 2/1/2006 6:40 PM someone tell me WHY this server doesn't have PvP? :)
 Pretty simple really. As much as we want to get Layonara Online as close to a PnP game as possible, it can't be done. There can't be GMs watching everything all the time, and as the record has shown, even though Layonara draws tons of great players we still get bad eggs from time to time.
  Point is, there are some players who are just too immature to be granted PvP, thus it has been banned for all (unless sanctioned by a GM). If we had open PvP we would probably have players killing each other pell mell. It would pretty much null the point of many subraces and deities that are able to be worshiped by PCs.
 

Thunder Pants

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2006, 04:09:25 pm »
actually if any clerics of mist hear about this i think it would be acceptable for them to challenge Taislin to a duel in the Arena, and of course if he declines, he's a yellow bellied coward
 

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Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 07:48:17 pm »
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Thunder Pants - 2/1/2006  7:09 PM

actually if any clerics of mist hear about this i think it would be acceptable for them to challenge Taislin to a duel in the Arena, and of course if he declines, he's a yellow bellied coward


My ears are tingling. ;)
 

Lilswanwillow

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2006, 07:12:24 am »
CDQ anyone?  I like the idea of forcing him to be a cleric of Myst from now on./...  fitting punishment.

or putting him on an island FAR from civilization.  for a VERY long time.
 

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Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 11:14:29 am »
GM's can't be everywhere all the time, but publishing your actions in this forum permits them to respond appropriately if not immediately.

No one is counting on the AI to make life more interesting.  It's the GM's that really make the game.  Keep them informed.
 

freemen2

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2006, 11:16:40 am »
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dadunmir - 2/2/2006  4:48 AM

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Thunder Pants - 2/1/2006  7:09 PM

actually if any clerics of mist hear about this i think it would be acceptable for them to challenge Taislin to a duel in the Arena, and of course if he declines, he's a yellow bellied coward


My ears are tingling. ;)


Funny thing that, as soon as I read TPs post you popped straight into my mind Yash...Mmmm, I just wonder why ;)
 

Eloyn

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Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2006, 01:11:22 pm »
Back off Yash...Roshnak already has his axe sharpened ;)
 

Ar7

RE: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2006, 02:02:06 pm »
I would like to ask for some clarification. L in you comment to the photo, you said that the NPCs are spreading the word. As such is it allowed to RP this information in the game, or rather, how possible is it, that our characters will find of this?
 

Leanthar

Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2006, 02:12:23 pm »
If you are a follower of mist AND have visited a MIST temple you would know about it.  Other than that nobody would know at this time.  (except for word of mouth from those few that I stated above).  A GM(s) will be handling this as well--rest assured.
 

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    RE: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
    « Reply #18 on: February 02, 2006, 02:21:52 pm »
    Not speaking as a team member but I would prefer if people didnt RP it quite yet. If someone smirked at Rolf I wouldnt really have any open RP options open. IC Rolf would kill for less and kill slowly, but that option is not open.

    *shrugs* but that is just me

     

    Grid Blader

    Re: Abuse of AI in temples and locations like that
    « Reply #19 on: February 03, 2006, 07:45:25 pm »
    I am upset that this happened.  I know it did not happen in the Temple of Toran, but done in any temple just shows no respect for the charters that follow any of the Deities.