In character roleplaying vs. griefing

[Melgrin]

I have a question griefing. I play a character who can, from time to time, gets fed up with other people, and starts acting rude. A few days ago my character was being picked on by a brownie who, after he turned invisible, poked him in the legs, pushed him around, and called him names. Now, my character probably deserved something like this, because he did not take the brownie serious when he first saw him, this being the first time he ever saw a brownie. My character got mad and started threatening to hurt the brownie, and tried to chase the creature away. At certain point the Hlint guard captain was called in because my character was getting armed. Of course he took his weapons down when the captain ordered him to. Both players were fine with this, and enjoyed playing out this situation.

In the server rules of this forum it is stated that griefing is not allowed. It says that "Griefing is the act of intentionally causing another player emotional harm by a verbal assault. It is also the act of intentionally causing players to not be able to have fun in the world [...]."

Now, my issue is that there could be situations where the characters are harassed and being treated rude, but this happens in character. If this is roleplayed right, the player is not griefed or harmed. Is this kind of roleplaying allowed?

[ZeroVega]

  You said it in your post. "Griefing is the act of intentionally causing another player emotional harm." As long as both/all parties know it's all in good RP, and how the characters feel about each other does not reflect how the players feel, go ahead and yell, scream, threaten... curse if you need to (though try and keep it the "friendly curses" and only with people you know well).
    I was watching and you looked to be RPing well to me. Reacting probably the way most people would/should. Curious, disbelieving, and a bit annoyed by the little bugger.
  -ZV

[Etinfall]

I have had questions like this before. Sometimes I will send a tell to the other player that I am just rp'ing and make sure things are allright. Cole has issures with drow

Now, when he used to see Albert(ZV) it was NEVER nessacary too send such tell. If you read any of his posts you will see that ZV definitly believes Drow should not be treated as nice as they are. So I was very comfortable being a drow hater with his char.

[ZeroVega]

*Whacks Cole on the head with his staff..... again* And don't forget it!

[Melgrin]

Amarath was indeed rather annoyed by the "quarterling" as he called the brownie. I wasn't sure how far he could go with this, so that is why I posted this question. It is mostly clear now.

One thing I still would like to know is if it is permitted in situations like this, to go one step further, and attack another character or cast a spell on him/her (not that Amarath would be able to cast a spell)? If Amarath would ever think about going down that path, it would not be more than a single hit or so. In the pen and paper campaign I was playing in, we had the possibility to do this, but it would almost allways be things like knockdown or overbearing (no real damage). I'm not sure how this could be done in NWN.

[ZeroVega]

  Well there's a problem with that. As good as it sounds, there's that auto attack feature... lets say Bruenor wanted to punch Tath... well first off, I'd automaticly attack him back (whether I wanted to or not). Then he's got amazing Strength so I'd get the snot beat out of me even bare fisted. Then he's got 4 Attacks per round so say we hit a little lag, he might whack me 4+ times before he's able to stop it.
    What you can do though is unequip your weapons and roll a d20, then add your attack bonus to it... best to work it out with the other player before you act it out. The dice bag can get slow though so if you both agree to act well you can just go one like...
  *Throws a punch at the brownie*
  *Dodges and tries to sweep his feet out from under him*
  *Watches as the tiny leg sweeps out air three feet in front of his legs*
  *Realizes his legs are too short to do anything with and runs at his legs in a tackle*
  *Watches as the brownie feably tries to lift him off his legs and kicks him off*
  *Jumps up on the foot as his opponent kicks and hops up toward his face where he spits in his eye*
  *coughs* Err somethin like that.

[Melgrin]

OK - understood. I had a lot of fun in that particular situation. I think we even used these kinds of phrases, but it's good to understand that this is the accepted way of playing out "problems" with other characters.

[lunchboxkilla]

I persoanlly tell the other player "This is in the spierit of RP and I have no issues with you" or some thing that lets them know they arer cool and this is RP, I have delt with a few greafers in my time and you'll know when they say nasty things in tells.


IF ANY ONE threatens you ina  tell PLEASE take a screen shot and send it to Any one on the GM team.

[silverblades]

how does one take screen shots??

[Drizzt]

The PrintScreenSysRq button right above the Insert button.  Just press that button and it will record the screen into your NWN folder.

[silverblades]

which NWN folder??

[Acacea]

Neverwinter Nights/NWN. They'll be TGA files.

[Delta7]

What if both characters are cool with the fist fight? For example, the other night while in the heat of battle Cronk accidently started attacking Exodus stonecutter. (Miss clicked knockdown)And Cronk about killed him before he realized what was happening. Thankfully it turned out well. Later that night when the evenings fun was over, exodus  lowered his weapons and pummeled Cronk and put him straight. We both enjoyed this RP tremendously and there was no hard fealings.

[Leanthar]

We have an Arena for that sort of thing. Sorry. I do understand (and respect) that this sort of thing could (and at times should) be allowed. Right now the rules are not open for that, hence the arena....

[xXDenizeNXx]

That is funny though, wish I could of seen that.

[Eight-Bit]

Leanthar - 5/10/2006 1:36 PM We have an Arena for that sort of thing. Sorry. I do understand (and respect) that this sort of thing could (and at times should) be allowed. Right now the rules are not open for that, hence the arena....

 And I've brought many a duel there over matters of Tiefling honor, mm hmm.
  But, to play a rude character really comes down to knowing your limits. With Key, a character who I play who isn't very nice out of personal flaws etc, can be rather rude. Atleast, until people find it cute or something like they are. Hey, leanthar.. does Bloodstone need an Assassin, or something? I need to do away with Key's cuteness factor..

[jan]

Eight-Bit - 5/11/2006  3:18 AM  
   And I've brought many a duel there over matters of Tiefling honor, mm hmm.
   But, to play a rude character really comes down to knowing your limits. With Key, a character who I play who isn't very nice out of personal flaws etc, can be rather rude. Atleast, until people find it cute or something like they are. Hey, leanthar.. does Bloodstone need an Assassin, or something? I need to do away with Key's cuteness factor..

  Awww ..Key is funny and cute *grins*   I already told her once she will be my rolemodel*snickers*  Guess i have to be nice to her more to get her away from Cole ...hehehe

[miltonyorkcastle]

*snickers*  That's why she sticks around Cole.  He ~isn't~ nice to her.  Somehow, she trusts him more for that than everyone else who treat her well.

Speaking of, Key and Cole really need to go to the Arena.  Cuz everytime Eight-bit sets up an event at the arena, I either sleep through it or he cancels, the berk.

[Eight-Bit]

miltonyorkcastle - 5/19/2006 3:03 AM *snickers* That's why she sticks around Cole. He ~isn't~ nice to her. Somehow, she trusts him more for that than everyone else who treat her well. Speaking of, Key and Cole really need to go to the Arena. Cuz everytime Eight-bit sets up an event at the arena, I either sleep through it or he cancels, the berk.

 It's so tough to get a time set up where people can attend. But, I am on a Llu kick for a while, so I think Key will be rarely seen.