Need to appologise to the three amigos who were/are waiting for me to get to the Grey Peaks. I'm running a wireless router on three PCs (2 high speed and 1 very very low tech). The wireless part went out and I'm left with my out dated PC that only has internet because it's sitting right next to the router and I can jack it in. I won't be making it and I'm sorry. I'll have to help you all another time.