From the description of Hlint..... "Location: Hlint lies close to the center of the continent of Mistone. Population: 2,000 (60% Human, 15% Halfling, 10% Dwarf, 5% Half-Orc, 5% Gnome, 5% Elf)" NOT ANYMORE!!
miltonyorkcastle - 2/9/2006 5:28 PM Blah, this is a multy-god pantheon! Why isn't there more multi-god worshippers? That is, why does everyone "pick" one god. Why not venerate, two, or three, or even eight different gods. When on the ocean, pray to Mist or Shindaleria, when selling your wares, pray to Deliar for good deals, when leading a charge against the ogre hoard, say a prayer to Vorax, etc. Heck, even communicate with the gods you don't like (just don't go pissing them off in their own temple unless you have a death wish ;-) ). Curse the gods you don't like, and praise the gods you do. One god doesn't govern everything on Layo afterall.
EdTheKet - 2/10/2006 5:21 AM So tell me Denizen (and welcome back BTW ) have you ever asked if these Half Giants, goblins and what not, who are all PCs, actually live in Hlint? They're all adventurers, so most don't have a permanent residence, so I don't count those. In addition to that, to warrant a 1% mention it means that there would need to be 20 half giants at least, which we don't reach, nor do we reach that for goblins, so no, at the moment I am not changing the racial make-up of Hlint's population. (And yes, it is something that is considered when updating, in the old handbook it was: 1,830 (60% Human, 15% Halfling, 10% Dwarf, 5% Half-Orc, 5% Gnome, 5% Elf) (so the number of inhabitants increased)
miltonyorkcastle - 2/9/2006 10:40 PM I agree with you on the race relations. I would, however, point out, that since you've been gone, there have been several Drow characters who have had a hand in major workings of the world for good, and as such, have gone a long way in building a hope and trust for their race among the surface dwellers. The open wedding between Sahala and Ael was a prime example of how much more trusting the people have become of the dark elves.
EdTheKet - 2/9/2006 4:43 PM Quotemiltonyorkcastle - 2/9/2006 10:40 PM I agree with you on the race relations. I would, however, point out, that since you've been gone, there have been several Drow characters who have had a hand in major workings of the world for good, and as such, have gone a long way in building a hope and trust for their race among the surface dwellers. The open wedding between Sahala and Ael was a prime example of how much more trusting the people have become of the dark elves. I beg to differ. Strongly. The last five years or so drow, to name a few things,: 1) Put siege to Hlint 2) Stole the remains of Toran's First Paladin and turned him into an undead general 3) Poisoned numerous wellknown adventurers so they wouldn't interfere with their schemes 4) Laid siege to and eventually occupied the city of Spellgard for several months 5) Did several other nasty things which I won't reveal at the moment So it is not even close that the drow have some kind of better standing or reputation during the last few years, especially not with the general population. The marriage and the fact that a handfull of drow were involved in some good deeds pale in comparison to the centuries of evilness (well documented in the history and folk tales if I say so myself). Hope and trust? I don't think so, not by a long shot. The general populace, and adventurers would be good to follow, is distrustful of drow and rightly so.
What I was suggesting, is that there are a significant number of influential people (primarily adventurers) who would vouch for and have friends among the Dark Elves. Those who, despite the atrocities of the Drow race, would at least give a Drow the opportunity to prove himself/herself trustworthy.
My own character, Cole, does not trust drow, and was there at the occupation of Spellgard, and when adventurers were being poisoned. He's killed many and points out to any Drow he meets that he has done so. He has, however, developed a working relationship with certain "darkies," even offering them a measure of respect.
There are a significant number of respected people who have seen that the Dark Elves are, in fact, capable of doing good, and that in itself is enough to have hope for their race, however minute that hope is.
Yes, I realize I'm debating with the loremaster himself, although I truly don't disagree with him (not that it would matter if I did). It just is apparent I needed to clarify myself.
miltonyorkcastle - 2/13/2006 10:45 PM *grins* I have to stop looking at things from a redemptive perspective. That is, everyone starts off evil, and then has a chance for redemption (becoming good). I.E. "Yeah yeah, Drow are evil, but so is everyone else." (Oi. That sounded a little like Ozy there...0.0...) It just doesn't work in a fantasy setting where good and evil are so strictly defined. *sobs* I'll just never fit in.
Stephen_Zuckerman - 2/14/2006 2:40 AM Heh, Pyyran's excuse is that he's not experienced the evilness of the drow.