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Dorax Windsmith

Resistances
« on: August 30, 2005, 08:52:00 am »
I have a question about stacking.   I understand that you cannot stack 2 resistances on the same piece of equipment, but 1) can you have two pieces of equipment with say -5 cold and would they stack? 2) If you take the energy resistance feat, would it stack with a piece of equipment that had -5 cold resistance, 3) What about polar armor?, 4) if you take damage reduction (epic or dwarven defender etc.) does it stack with stoneskin?
 

IDii

RE: Resistances
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 08:59:00 am »
DR never stacks with the exception of the feats stacking with everything.

So to answer your questions...

1) Two pieces of equipment with 5/- damage reduction won't stack.
2) The 5/- damage reduction from the feat and 5/- from the piece of equipment would stack, since the DR from feats stacks
3) Not sure what properties polar armor has.
4) The epic DR feats and the DD feats stack with any DR. Stoneskin isn't even damage reduction, it's damage resistance. So stoneskin would stack with a 5/- resistance an armor might have.

See there's two kinds of resistances. Ones you see that are like 5/- slashing and 5/- cold. Those are damage reductions. They don't stack with other damage reductions but do stack with damage resistances. Well there's only physical damage resistance anyway so the elemental reduction doesn't really stack with anything else but immunitites.

So you can have like 5/- damage reduction vs slashing from an adamantium full plate. Then a 10/+4 damage resistance from a stoneskin (the +4 meaning anything with an enhancement bonus of lower than +4 will be soaked by the DR, +4 and higher would go through). And then you can have anything from feats since they stack with equipment and other feats...

Err... hope that wasn't complicated.
 

Pankoki

RE: Resistances
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 08:59:00 am »
1) No. 2) No.  3) No. 4) Yep.
 

IDii

RE: Resistances
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 09:00:00 am »
Heh, you sure about #2 Pan? I do recall the feat elemental resistances stacking with equipment.
 

Pankoki

RE: Resistances
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 10:10:00 am »
Well I remember testing Tribs epic feats and giving her acid resist (I forgot I had the resistance in a ring as well) and it was only resisting 10 of acid when I got hellballed. These were the epic feats, I doubt they are that different to the non-epic ones. I could have misread though.
 

IDii

RE: Resistances
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 10:21:00 am »
Heh. And I remember testing Reg's epic feats and do recall the 10/- from the feat and 15/- I had in my robes stacking. Different amount of DR though there... Or maybe they've just changed it. Dunno, should try again I guess.
 

Dorax Windsmith

RE: Resistances
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 11:04:00 am »
Thanks for the info, good news about the epic DR, but I won't have to worry about that for a while.  More immediately, I don't want to waste a feat on Energy resistance if it doesn't add to what I can get from placing a resistance on a piece of equipment.
 

Talan Va'lash

RE: Resistances
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 11:28:00 am »
Hopefully the feats stack, if not, they're only any good in an uber low magic (read, no magic) setting.

Relatedly, do the self-concealment feats stack with other concealment?

-TV
 

IDii

RE: Resistances
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 11:31:00 am »
Self concealment doesn't stack with other concealment. 50+50=100% would be a bit silly, no?

Prety sure the DR feats stack though... and you can get multiple of them anyway.
 

Talan Va'lash

RE: Resistances
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2005, 03:27:00 pm »
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IDii - 8/30/2005  12:31 PM

Self concealment doesn't stack with other concealment. 50+50=100% would be a bit silly, no?


Right.  That would be way overpowering (even if it limited it to a certain concealment.)  I was thinking self concealment granted 5% concealment each time and could be taken 5 times, resulting in only 25% concealment (only way to get to 100% with that is with the modded premonition.)  But I was wrong, its 10% each and can be taken 5 times.

-TV
 

Harlas Ravelkione

RE: Resistances
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2005, 01:02:00 am »
Perhaps I just dont know the spell, but I often see casters being 75% concealed...
 

Talan Va'lash

RE: Resistances
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2005, 01:05:00 am »
Premonition now gives 75% concealment
 

Eight-Bit

RE: Resistances
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2005, 01:58:00 am »
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Talan Va'lash - 8/30/2005  6:27 PM

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IDii - 8/30/2005  12:31 PM

Self concealment doesn't stack with other concealment. 50+50=100% would be a bit silly, no?


Right.  That would be way overpowering (even if it limited it to a certain concealment.)  I was thinking self concealment granted 5% concealment each time and could be taken 5 times, resulting in only 25% concealment (only way to get to 100% with that is with the modded premonition.)  But I was wrong, its 10% each and can be taken 5 times.

-TV


By the time you can take the five feats you're nearly level 40 anyway. So by then you've earned the right to be missed up to 50% of the time, I do believe. :)
 

Diamondedge

RE: Resistances
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2005, 11:29:00 am »
Or uhm... Yeah, have a wizard handy. A good mage will beat some enchantment anyways, 9 times outtah 10. So always travel with a magic-wielding slave like I do. *whips his mage-slave. It arfs and wags it's tail*
 

 

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