Stephen_Zuckerman - 2/17/2007 12:04 PMA copper rapier in the hands of an epic-level Duelist.
Stephen_Zuckerman - 2/17/2007 12:34 PMI wouldn't go Weapon Master/Duelist, because that would just weaken the Duelist levels... And no point in getting Mithril over Copper because the damage bonus from Enhancement is overwritten by Precise Strike damage. +3 to hit isn't that much...You're right about the threat range and the crit multiplier; I just feel that the extra Precise Strike damage on every hit, as well as the DEX and INT to AC are worth more.Let's say you take a 10 Rogue/30 Duelist.Sneak Attack +5d6EvasionImproved Uncanny DodgeImproved Evasion or Crippling StrikeWhirlwind AttackAcrobatic Attack +8Grace +12Elaborate Parry +30Canny Defense adds double INT bonus.BAB would be +27/+22/+17/+12.For feats, we'd assume all of the Duelist Prerequisites, plus Improved Critical (rapier), and assuming they didn't get Combat Prowess.The attack stats for the rapier (copper rapier, totally unenchanted) would beRapier +28/+23/+18/+13 (plus DEX bonus on each attack).3d6 (plus STR bonus) 15-20/x2Now, if you tried Acrobatic Attack, you'd probably kill anything you aimed at.Looking at a WM with a scimitar, though, the WM is more suited to destroying things, but honestly... *Grins.* Dex-based fighters are better.As to why I chose Rogue over Fighter? Sneak attack and special abilities, not to mention the usefulness of INT. Also, there's more of a focus on skills and such than armor or shield proficiencies, neither of which benefit the Duelist.EDIT: IDii's is better.
Stephen_Zuckerman - 2/17/2007 3:15 PMIn a straight fight, the Duelist would win against the WM. Why? Two words.Parry Mode.They would get the same number of attacks... Let's think about what a 10 Rogue/30 Duelist would have for a Parry check.Max Ranks 43 + Elaborate Parry 30 + Dex somewhere around +14ish.That's already +87.
Jearick Hgar - 2/18/2007 12:26 AMQuoteStephen_Zuckerman - 2/17/2007 3:15 PMIn a straight fight, the Duelist would win against the WM. Why? Two words.Parry Mode.They would get the same number of attacks... Let's think about what a 10 Rogue/30 Duelist would have for a Parry check.Max Ranks 43 + Elaborate Parry 30 + Dex somewhere around +14ish.That's already +87.but does he hit? and woudl he always succeede? diciplin is a str based skill as well. by 40 the WM's str could be rediculously high cuz of greater str. and the base would be 43, then he could wear discp giving items. the discp could end up equaling the Parry. adn that puts the WM up again.
Stephen_Zuckerman - 2/18/2007 12:15 AMIn a straight fight, the Duelist would win against the WM. Why? Two words.Parry Mode.They would get the same number of attacks... Let's think about what a 10 Rogue/30 Duelist would have for a Parry check.Max Ranks 43 + Elaborate Parry 30 + Dex somewhere around +14ish.That's already +87.