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ozziewolf

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    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #20 on: November 04, 2005, 07:06:00 AM »
    If I was surrounded by guards with swords drawn and was told to lick the floor and I could see no other way out I'd ask them "How big an area you want licked?"  Of course with such humiliation I'd probably find some way to get back at them.  Something subtle though maybe leaving a burning present on the door step for them to step on to put out with there foot. :]

    I agree though a Chaotic person follows the laws as long as it suits them and even when breaking them they're not necessarily going to have people be aware that they're breaking them.  It would be like a thief breaking into a home during broad daylight because he thought laws against stealing where dumb.  He'd do it at night and try not to get caught so he'd have more freedoms during the day with people thinking he was a law abiding citizen. ;)
     

    Stephen_Zuckerman

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #21 on: November 04, 2005, 07:15:00 AM »
    So, basically, what you're all saying, is that if a person is perfectly willing to do grevious, painful injury to someone, in order to save the lives of whomever, that they couldn't possibly be Good? Or that a Good character wouldn't suddenly pop his king across the face, because he was getting so BLOODY irritating? Or that any sort of Chaotic character would find death more appealing than personal humility?

    You're all over-thinking this. There's no code of conduct for a given alignment; these things aren't some textbook-definable categories with a hundred little prerequisites. Alignment is one of the few things that works exactly the same in NWN as PnP D&D. I can see how, depending on the way a character would think, nearly any alignment could be played where the character would take the actions of any other. Let's take your average I MUST KILL ALL EVIL Paladin. Now, this paladin goes around, slaying everything that he or she sees as evil, regardless of what those things have to say about it. Mindless slaughter... Sound terribly Good to you? Oh, but s/he's killing Evil! Who cares. Mindless slaughter. How about an LE Aristocrat who is willing to lie, cheat, steal, and generally go about getting money in all the wrong ways, but is a perfectly law-abiding citizen, who will even donate to charities in the intrest of keeping a good public name? A CG Rogue who steals for her supper, and wouldn't have any compunctions about breaking some thug's fingers, if only that thug would tell her where he has her lover locked away. The list goes on.

    What is "Good" is defined by each one of us; when I make a character, I try to define thier Good/Evil axis on thier own views of themselves, and thier Lawful/Chaotic axis not on whether or not they follow the laws of the land, but on how set in thier ways they are, how strongly they hold to some (im)personal code.

    Just my two plat,
    ~ Stephen the PnP GM
     

    miltonyorkcastle

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #22 on: November 04, 2005, 07:19:00 AM »
    Ozziewolf-> "I agree though a Chaotic person follows the laws as long as it suits them and even when breaking them they're not necessarily going to have people be aware that they're breaking them. It would be like a thief breaking into a home during broad daylight because he thought laws against stealing where dumb. He'd do it at night and try not to get caught so he'd have more freedoms during the day with people thinking he was a law abiding citizen."

    Works for me.  Of course, the situation changes drastically when faced with overwhelming odds (such as being surrounded by guards); it's either fight, flight, or surrender, and with a Chaotic Neutral person, I say you never know which route they'll take, as it completely depends on their whims, their will.
     

    miltonyorkcastle

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #23 on: November 04, 2005, 07:30:00 AM »
    *claps hands and whistles for Stephen Zuckerman*
     

    Doc-Holiday

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #24 on: November 04, 2005, 10:07:00 AM »
    Thanks Zuk.. I have a hard time explaing myself... then again.. I wanted a new member
     

    miltonyorkcastle

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #25 on: November 04, 2005, 10:10:00 AM »
    Who says I'm not already a member?  *winks*  I have a particularly hard head.
     

    Talan Va'lash

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #26 on: November 04, 2005, 11:06:00 AM »
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    miltonyorkcastle - 11/3/2005  10:12 AM

    To me, there is a very high possibility that a CN person would not 'lick the floor,' despite the number of swords and guards.


    This might push the character into the Chaotic Stupid alignment :P

    -TV
     

    miltonyorkcastle

    RE: Chaotic what?
    « Reply #27 on: November 04, 2005, 11:28:00 AM »
    Woohoo!  Chaotic Stupid lives!  I didn't know there were others that used that term outside my old gaming group, but it makes sense others would have thought of it.  There's nothing new under the sun, afterall.  

    By the way, a group of guards with swords drawn has never once stopped one of my PnP barbarians.  Now, a group with Crossbows... that's a different story.... only way my character survived that was by using one of the guards as a human shield while running away....  does that make him Chaotic Evil?    
     ;)  ;)
     

     

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