Riddick

[miltonyorkcastle]

0.o   .....  the Pacifier... not Riddick....  same actor... different character...

[cappyra]

Yea definately not Riddick in Pacifier...  he would have just gutted everyone...  Bah!  Wait thats Derrick not Riddick

[jjkolb]

Milton & Cappyra both failed save vs. bad joke.
  *chuckles*

[miltonyorkcastle]

I have a -10 to all saves versus bad jokes.  It's the Curse of the Analytical.

 

[Doc-Holiday]

*holds out a rubber chicken*


TASHA'S HIDEOUS LAUGHTER!


*bows*

[Zen]

Hey Doc,
Where did ya get your "Rubber Chicken"?

[Doc-Holiday]

Ozy gave it to me

[OneST8]

Riddick is True Neutral.

He listens to no one and follows his whims/instincts which is normally all about self-preservation.

The fact that he was protective towards Kira is due to what happened at the end of Pitch Black. The so-called Captain of the freighter wasn't supposed to die for Riddick but for the others instead. Yet in the end she gave her life so that Riddick (and the rest) could survive. So instead of just taking off Riddick was forced into a guilt trip regarding the holy man and child whom everyone thought was a boy. That personal debt to the martyr pilot is what drove Riddick to bend his True Neutral character and look out for someone other than himself.

As for whether or not Riddick is/was a real criminal has yet to be seen. All we know is that he's done some bad things in his time but given that his home world was obliterated, his race was all but exterminated (remembering the imagery of the Lord Marshall hanging children by their umbilicle chords) and that his race in-general has a deep seated issue with authority ("Furians, defiant to the end.") I see no other plausible outcome for his character.

The whole Riddick saga that's unfolding is one of those types of things that I am eagerly awaiting each installment. The tale is of epic proportions and is generally very well written with excellent special effects and a coherent plot.

In truth I feel that George Lucas failed with Star Bores where David Twohy succeeds with Riddick.

[miltonyorkcastle]

OneST8...  I am leaning towards your thoughts that he is True Neutral, as I can argue so many alignments for Riddick, it only makes sense, then, that he is the alignment that encompasses everything:  True Neutral.  Still not positive, but leaning that way.  Unless someone has a really great argument in support of another alignment, and we've all heard those in support of CN.

As far as the tale goes, yeah, I am so hoping there is more to the Chronicles of Riddick.  You're right on about the situation from Pitch Black.

[Stephen_Zuckerman]

A truly and deeply complex character can often enough only be defined by a Neutral alignment on the Law/Chaos axis, and usually there is also a tendancy towards fitting into the Neutral for Good/Evil as well. Why?

Being "Neutral" can mean one of two things: That the person or party is neither one nor the other, or that the person/party is both, more or less equally.

In Riddick's case...

He is a Furion, to start with. Furions are, from my understanding, at once Chaotic and Lawful, in a sense; they are considered violenly defiant, while they will always hold to thier own personal code of honor, whatever that may be. To me, this smacks of Law more than anything. It is something they hold very strictly to, that they are defiant against any sort of opposition or opression, and they hold to the other strictures of thier personal honor just as strongly. In general, Furions, due to thier strong sense of honor, are more Good than Evil, yet thier lust for violence pushes thier actions further from Good than if they were a more peaceful race. The mix of Good and Evil (a general urge to protect the innocent or helpless, in combination with the bloodlust) sets them, in my mind, at Neutral on a Good/Evil axis.

Lawful Neutral.

However, this is from the perspective of the Furions themselves, so to speak; basing it on thier actions as interperated by other races might set them at Chaotic Neutral, or even Chaotic Evil. That interperatation would not be true to the Furions' own drives, motives, and natures, though, and I thusly consider it to be less than fitting.

Considering, though, that the actions of the Furions we've seen in the Riddick movies (all two of them? Sorry, but I've only seen Chronicles) would be considered greatly Chaotic, regardless of motive, the outward actions in terms of alignment must still be taken into account. Thusly, True Neutral would be a fitting alignment for them, as a race, with equal tendancies towards all extremes of alignments.

[cappyra]

You should have made this a vote =P

HAR!

[miltonyorkcastle]

hmmmm... you're right.  I did want some "why's" though...