On PVPing/PKing

[EvilPig]

Is this completely outlawed from the server? If I read correctly I think it is. But if, for instance, you've agreed on exactly what will happen beforehand with the player of someone you're planning on killing, would this be accepted?

I'd be fine with either, although I've seen some great rp spawned through realistic, rped PKing in the past. It's a bit of a dissapointment to read that rule.

Please, some feedback? Thanks!
-Piggy

[Zen]

I am not a GM so I can only answer as a player.

We PvP ONLY with words, I have once or twice hit another PC but it was a misclick or a mistake made while fighting monsters in close quarters.

As to PKing, That is outlawed as you put it.

Hope that helps

[EvilPig]

Thank ya! This helps a lot.

[Aryn Ravenlocke]

Player killing is against server rules, as is griefing, or even simply attacking another player. Even if both sides agree to the confrontation, including possible consequences, it is not allowed.
  The ONLY and I repeat ONLY time it is allowed is if it is part of story development, agreed to by BOTH parties, and is SUPERVISED BY A GM. This is the only time it is permitted. It has happened a very small handful of times and rquires extraordinary circumstances to occur.
  Racial, dogmatic, or simply personal conflicts can be RPed through heated discussions that remain clean as far as the expected etiquette on this server. Also, avoidance is another option, though it can seriously cut down on the number of interesting RP situations you find yourself in.
   YT

[Dorganath]

I am a GM, and PvP and PK is generally not acceptible in terms of actually doing damage or physical harm to another PC.  There's RPing the conflict and using the dicebag...those are two viable outlets for PvP situations.  Any other forms of PvP (i.e. directly attacking another character) are not permitted in an unsupervised manner. Along similar lines, griefing another player's character in order that you make things difficult for the player is also not permitted. 
  That said, IF both parties agree and IF a GM is present and IF that GM agrees, then some PvP...even PKing...may be permitted.  But again, it absolutely MUST be supervised.
  Accidents can and do happen.  PKs sometimes happen without people realizing what went down.  We do track PKs, and unsanctioned PvP activity will generally be reported or discovered. 
  Our rules on PvP and PK are for the good of the game world and the enjoyment of the people playing in it.  There's a lot of information here and in the handbook regarding these rules.  Browse or search for them, and of course, don't be afraid to ask if you need clarification.
  Oh, and welcome!
  Edit: Heh...well Aryn beat me to it...

[EvilPig]

Thank ya again both of you, my questions have been answered. See you in game soon hopefully!

[Talan Va'lash]

I've only seen a PC killed by another PC once or twice (er, barring AoE accidents, summons/familliars going haywire, and the occasional confusion incident)

I remember way back when I was new here I got by a character, then whined on the DM channel about being... mmm... I think "maliciously PKed" was the phrase I used.

But... embarassingly, the character that killed me was one of the majorish plot related NPCs being played by L at the time, and I just didn't know my Ahem from a hole in the ground.

yeah... that was pretty funny in hindsight.

-TV

[Force_of_Will_]

And PK tokens.

get a few of them and your Booted.

[cappyra]

PK/PvP is banned here.  You can RP attacks and combat with dice.  It is a little more difficult but in the end it pays off in RP value.


I have 2 PKs...  

The first one somebody accidentally performed an unsuccessful special attack on me in the middle of about 20 Ogres.  I did a Cleave and guess who registered as my next victum.  I killed him so quick I didn't even notice until after the battle he was laying in a puddle and I scrolled back and saw that I had PKed him. . .

The second time I was "confused" with a spell and hacked a poor wizard to death.

Both of these were cause by game mechanics rather than malicious intent.  Just be careful with AOE spells and special attacks like Knockdown in a group.

[Wintersheart]

Just to add a note to what Cappyra said.

Confusion and blade barrier are two of the spells casters need to excercise extreme caution when using. Add a touch of lag or the general confusion of combat and they are both extremly effective at killing....party members, but unlike a misclick - which happens to everyone - the player (not character) made a conscious choice when preparing these spells.

[freemen2]

Don't think this should lie on only the spellcasters' shoulders...I read a few threads about this Winterheart and t'is always the same...boo weavers.  And if you all don't know by now I never play one :p
The spell caster is in a party and if it's agreed for him/her to cast it, then it isn't their fault if someone dies on it.
If you forgo your voice when yer in a party then you have to assume the consequences of not speaking-up.

[Wintersheart]

I don’t disagree with you, but then what you describe would be exercising caution (i.e. discussing tactics beforehand and preparing accordingly).

*grins* I play a spellcaster and you can ask Meizter about my rants – personally I consider the untimely death of rushing fools for natural selection, but alas they give PKs.

However having said that those two spells I mentioned are in my personal experience prone to go wrong and dangerous when they do. Add one misunderstanding and a touch of lag to blade barrier and you got the Layo Chainsaw Massacre.  

[Stephen_Zuckerman]

Wintersheart - 11/28/2005  4:40 PM

Add one misunderstanding and a touch of lag to blade barrier and you got the Layo Chainsaw Massacre.  

Almost makes me want to play a Spellcaster...

[freemen2]

Wintersheart - 11/28/2005  10:40 PM
...*grins* I play a spellcaster and you can ask Meizter about my rants – personally I consider the untimely death of rushing fools for natural selection, but alas they give PKs...

Heh heh always thought that if a player was dumb enough to rush threw a blade barrier then the survival of the fitess, thought crept threw my mind as it happened as well  But yeah always thought it unfair that PKs weren't removed for that and the same goes for lag death that others members of your group witnessed *shrugs*  

But I wouldn't call caution something that is just natural and in the hands of all, ie: you have lag the weaver casts them blades but you just don't say I ain't going because I have lag, then die and go and blame the weaver LoL

[Rayenoir]

Speaking as one of the less fit, having nearly died from running through a blade barrier due to lag on multiple occasions, I agree wholeheartedly with freemen and wintersheart.  It's on my shoulders if I get killed in their spell, not those of the person who cast the spell.  As long as they haven't carelessly cast it where I'm standing.  I wasn't aware those PKs didn't get removed... personally, I think they should.  A stationary damaging effect is much different from poor aim landing a fireball on top of someone.

[Leanthar]

It is pretty easy to remove PK tokens. Just request with proof from the caster as well as the one died and perhaps one or two others in the party.  PK tokens are simple to remove--just many people do not ask them to be removed.
  DT's are another thing all together.

[freemen2]

Ok L, thanks *grins* was still going on, in regards to something I read about that a while back, on the PKs