High-level scribing recipes

[Rayenoir]

I was wondering if we could get some non-scroll items for the upper levels of scribing?  Such as books that have once/day effects, or perhaps some "Greater scrolls" that have charges rather than just one use?  Perhaps the latter is stepping into the Infusing territory, though.  Just a thought.

[darkwulf365]

Raye and I were talking about this in IRC, my suggestion was to add a book binding station inside the mage tower's.  X scrolls of the same type, an enchanting oil, a number of gem dusts appropriate to the level of the book, and at least 1 leather from an appropriate animal (e.g. badger for cantrips, malar for lvl 9), some gum to bind the pages together, and you would end up with a book that would give you for example 10 charges of the same spell.

Anyways, my .02

[Filatus]

*coughs* Making an item that gives you ten charges of a spell is indeed called "infusion".

And the problem of those once a day effects is that I don't see the logic in adding any such items with a high circle spell. Next to this a lot of spells were taken out of infusion for a reason. This will only put them back again.

[Ar7]

Actually you could have 6 books, for each school, then maybe divide each as lesser, normal and greater. So let's say making a normal tomb of evocation, you would need:

2x scrolls of fireball
2x scrolls of magic missle
2x melf's acid breath
2x scroll X
Gemdusts
Leather
Gems

And it would cast each of the spells let us say 5 times. Also require spell focus to craft the lesser and normal tomes and greater spell focus to craft the greater tomes and then limit their use to wizards and bards only.

The above will accomplish, that tomes will be meant for educated spell caster as a means of increasing the number of spells they have. They will be hard to make and will be limited to the wizards who take the school seriously. They will also make an interesting RP goal for rogues as I can hardly see a mage, who studied his entire life, who would put his knowledge in a book and hand it to some Joe who happened to know arcane runes.

As a final point, I see this as a good idea, would certainly lighten scribing up and make it more interesting. And it should go into scribing, as not everything with charges automatically equals infusing. They will not be overpowered, as items usually have low DCs and casting levels and even the greater books will be limited by level 5 spells.

[darkstorme]

So, what, you mean that it's a five-charge item that allows you to cast any of the 10 scrolls you put into it?  There needs to be a greater return on investment, really.  I don't see that creating a "Lesser Tome of Healthy Living" or whatever the perma-strength tome from D&D is called, is unbalancing - it creates an item that anyone capable of using magic (INCLUDING Rogues) can use once a day to cast Bull's Strength (or twice a day/three times, whatever seems fair), at an investment much greater than that which goes into, say, a potion or scroll.