question about archan archer.

[silverdraco]

I got a question I need to know the anwser to. it's for a creation of a character.

This character has a half elf father and a human mother.
the father is has arcane archer as one of his classes and the mother is a sorceress.
Could this character being 1/4 elf and 3/4 human have a change of becoming a arcane archer.
I would take the half elf when creating this character. let me know if this is possible.

Silverdraco

[Laldiien]

I would suspect your character could be/play anything s/he desires.  Linage doesn't seem to matter as much as RP.  (Unless you are going for a half-giant arcane archer.  Doable, but...wow.

[Faldred]

I would suspect your character could be/play anything s/he desires.  Linage doesn't seem to matter as much as RP.  (Unless you are going for a half-giant arcane archer.  Doable, but...wow.

Actually not do-able as a half-giant.  You must be an elf (any subrace) or half-elf to qualify.

My personal interpretation is that even a drop of Elvish blood (at least, enough to justify taking half-elf as your race) would be sufficient, however, I do not speak for the rest of the approvals team here.

[Laldiien]

Actually not do-able as a half-giant.  You must be an elf (any subrace) or half-elf to qualify.

My personal interpretation is that even a drop of Elvish blood (at least, enough to justify taking half-elf as your race) would be sufficient, however, I do not speak for the rest of the approvals team here.

Thanks.  I was just shooting from the hip and forgot about the racial requirement.

Half-elf, half-half giant?

[Faldred]

Half-elf, half-half giant?

Let's not go there... I don't want to have to contemplate a half-elf who's say, half-Drow (ok, half-Dark Elf) and half-Wemic, or something silly like that...  O.o

[Weeblie]

If you create as a half-elf, then... You are really a half-elf.

Seconding Faldred. As long as there is justification for picking the half-elf race at all, then, I don't really see any problem with the AA class.

[darkstorme]

At the same time, a quarter-elf is really starting to thin the blood.  I'm not sure half-elven traits would breed true.

[Carillon]

In my (admittedly non-expert) opinion, if you feel that your character, who is one-quarter elven by blood, enough resembles someone with strong elven heritage to justify submitting as a half-elf, then I think you should meet the requirements for this prestige class.

I don't know that many people here can call themselves experts on just how thin elven blood can get before there's really no difference between that person and a human, so my instinct would be to allow your own common sense and your knowledge of your character to guide you.

[Weeblie]

Hm... I'm not sure if this is so very well defined in D&D, and Layo tend to have quite relaxed rules, allowed you to more or less go the way you want.

But... to be a perfectionist, I think the following is the case:

Elf + Human = Half-Elf
Elf + Half-Elf = Elf
Human + Half-Elf = Human
Half-Elf + Half-Elf = Half-Elf

So, a "quarter elf" would be classified as a human, game mechanically.

As I said, I don't believe Layo is so very strict on that topic!

[Acacea]

I'm wondering what everyone thinks is the reason for the elf in the first place? What does looking like one have to do with it? What does having a drop of blood in the right spot have to do with it, really?

I've always understood it to be a part of elven culture, something only elves or MAYBE their icky mutated offspring would be involved in. If it were simply the ability to cast some magic on the arrows, then anyone should be able to take the class, including a half-giant, if he could cast the spells and use a twig bow in the first place!

Unfortunately I have read no lore relating to a place for arcane archers specifically in elven society, and most of the characters I have seen are just something like "I can make my arrows shiny, now, and you can't do it even though you're an epic wizard because it's some elven mutation that triggered in me," or something similar.

Elven warbands, indeed!

[Hellblazer]

Well I would like some clarification on this to. Because at the moment I am submitting an even more mutated offspring of a half-elf and a human and I would like to know if choosing half elf would be alright. Logicaly, it take many many many generations to lose tracks of the strong heriditary genes. And in such if by Race they have some abilities, those would take many generations to disapear to, even if the blood was drawn thin. If those abilities are given by race then they are prominant genes, and knowing the frail nature of the Humans, those genes would take over the weaker genes.

Bio 101 on race mutations hehehe

[silverdraco]

Many idea's from all of you but I don't see a clear awnser.
I guess I will have to try and make the character and just see if it's aproved.
Since the character is only 12 years now it will take a while before it can be played but the parents (how are PC's). can rp the fact this future character of mine has something elven inside of her.  I'll have to see how best to rp this so I have more change of being able of having the half elf race when the character is created. game macanicly of coarse. RP wise this character would still be 1/4th elf, 3/4th human.  

thanks for all of your input in this anyway.

silverdraco

[darkstorme]

And in such if by Race they have some abilities, those would take many generations to disapear to, even if the blood was drawn thin. If those abilities are given by race then they are prominant genes, and knowing the frail nature of the Humans, those genes would take over the weaker genes.

I would argue that this is not in fact the case.  Elves have Sleeplessness.  Half-elves are only immune to Sleep spells.  Elves have keen senses and a bonus to Search, Listen, and Spot.  Half-elves have half that bonus.  Elves live to seven hundred.  Half-elves live to a paltry one hundred and eighty. This is one generation.

Humans are robust and adaptable - hence the "skilled" and "quick to master" racial abilities.  I don't think there's any reason to suppose that the same isn't true about their genes... if, that is, elven-human crossbreedings have anything to do with genes.  I doubt that elven traits would persist in more than a slight exotic cast to the face, a slightly shorter stature and a slight point to the ears in a quarter-blood.  Perhaps better night vision than most humans, but not even as good as their half-elven parents.

While there might be something vaguely elven about a quarter-elf, I don't think there would be anything resembling even half-elven special abilities left, any more than a sorcerer can breathe fire.

[Hellblazer]

While there might be something vaguely elven about a quarter-elf, I don't think there would be anything resembling even half-elven special abilities left, any more than a sorcerer can breathe fire.

love tha one. Im not saying they would have all the bonuses, but they woudlnt just fade away in two generations.