Author Topic: Giving away a soul stone (Read 1046 times)

gilshem ironstone · « **on:** May 18, 2010, 09:26:31 AM »

On the page for [lore]Soulstones[/lore] it reads:

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If given to a cleric, they can use a soul stone to pull your soul back from the Plane of the Lost. A cleric can not read the person’s True Name, but does know whose gem it is by a resonating warmth when near its owner.

Is this represented by some ingame mechanic, or is this an RP device only?

Alatriel · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:31:22 AM »

You buy a soul stone at one of the temples and then "use" it. it becomes imprinted and then when you are raised it goes away

miltonyorkcastle · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:31:31 AM »

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking is being represented, but yes, Soulstones exist IG as a usable item. They are consumed if and when you are brought back from the dead by a Raise Dead or Resurrection spell/prayer. If you're asking about the cleric taking the stone, it's assumed the cleric takes the stone from the dead body and uses it as part of the spell/prayer.

Pibemanden · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:32:07 AM »

I think he is asking if you can use a soulstone to identify its owner?

gilshem ironstone · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2010, 09:57:30 AM »

Sorry I should clarify. I understand the use of possessing a soulstone. Is there any additional effect of giving a soulstone to a cleric? (i.e. Being summoned from your bindpoint to your gravestone by the cleric who has your stone.)

Dorganath · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2010, 10:06:06 AM »

No, the cleric cannot do anything like that. The Soulstone really just puts less of a strain on a cleric when raising/resurrecting a person, but they don't give the cleric the ability to "summon" or teleport the person in any way.

miltonyorkcastle · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:17:16 AM »

I reworded the statement slightly to avoid further confusion.

[LORE]Soulstones[/LORE]

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If given to a cleric, he/she can use a soul stone to aid in the prayer to pull your soul back from the Plane of the Lost. A cleric can not read the person's True Name, but does know whose gem it is by a resonating warmth when near its owner.

cbnicholson · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:06:46 PM »

Soulstones aren't actually given to the cleric mechanically. A device called the eye of the soul is used to see if a character has one activated in their inventory. In fact I don't think the gem once imprinted(used) can be taken out of inventory.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:28:14 PM »

yes cbnicholson has it right there.

Sometimes clerics hand them out to the people they travel with... depending on the cleric and all I suppose.

Hellblazer · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:36:41 PM »

What has been said before is Right. I just want to bring in maybe a bit of rp view point.

It's quite possible, and could be RPed by pc clerics, that the cleric would go through the things of the dead, take the soul stone to pray on it and do a ritual* in the attempt of bringing the life back in the body. In which, the soul stone would then shatter. Which would account for the reason why, the soul stone is no longer in the inventory, and that there is no shards of gem left behind. Because it would not have shattered in the packs of the dead pc.

*ie the visual casting but since it's not a casting but more of a prayer ritual

Pibemanden · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:45:00 PM »

Uhmm... Just a question from me then.. Why would a cleric have to know if a soul stone belongs to someone special. Why can't it be that the cleric is given some small token/a cantrip which can detect if a person is carrying their soul stone?
Because it seems rather strange to me that the cleric can determine if a stone belongs to someone special. In theory this could be abused for the purpose of identifying people(Although it is rather hard and only works for one special person)

Hellblazer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:46:26 PM »

There is, its called the eye of the soul (kinda looks like an eyeball too!). You can buy it at a temple, or the vendor in the crimson memorial of Hempstead.

By using the item and then clicking on the dead body, it will whisper back to you if the person has a soul stone. Kinda like what I was writing about the cleric going through the person things to take the soul stone. But since pickpocketing is not enable on the server, it would be impossible to do so. This tool can help the rp about what I just wrote about earlier.

The only thing that item says, is if the dead person is carrying any imprinted soul stone.

Remember also that an imprinted soul stone can not be transfered to someone else, or placed in bags. So the person can only carry his own imprinted soul stone.

Pibemanden · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2010, 04:58:20 PM »

Ahh I knew about the eye, but not that you could buy it. I am just wondering why it is important that you can tell that a soul stone actually belongs to the person you are trying to raise. Versus telling that the person has one of his/her soulstones with her.

Really it is all just a game mechanics which I am not sure I understand entirely

Hellblazer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:01:48 PM »

I think milt said that the cleric doesn't know the true name of the person. Just that the cleric in rp knows it belongs to that person because the soul stone resonates when it is close to the body it belongs to.

The eye also doesn't tell you the name of that person.. or if it does (which I don't remember) that's a slip up I guess.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:05:34 PM »

Each person can get soul stones.

You can impress a part of your soul onto 1 (i forget the exact wording).

Should you die a cleric can use the eye of the soul That is the eyeball thingy clerics can go buy... (well anyone can buy one but why?) It whispers to them if you (the dead person) have imprinted your soul onto a soulstone or not.

If you havnt the cleric WILL take an XP loss for raising you... which some wont do if you dont have an activated soul stone.

Hellblazer · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:06:34 PM »

they can buy it, but only clerics can use it.

Pibemanden · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:09:20 PM »

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A cleric can not read the person's True Name, but does know whose gem it is by a resonating warmth when near its owner.

It is the bold text I am wondering about... I know how the soulstone system works, with 200+ deaths I know trust me. What I am wondering is what this one part of the sentence is there for?
The eye of the soul pretty much renders this useless, as well as the fact that you probably don't leave your soulstone somewhere random, so it will always be on your person for destruction when it is needed.

Hellblazer · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Guardian 452

Each person can get soul stones.

You can impress a part of your soul onto 1 (i forget the exact wording).

Should you die a cleric can use the eye of the soul That is the eyeball thingy clerics can go buy... (well anyone can buy one but why?) It whispers to them if you (the dead person) have imprinted your soul onto a soulstone or not.

If you havnt the cleric WILL take an XP loss for raising you... which some wont do if you dont have an activated soul stone.

I think the wording is

"The gem has been encoded with XX true name." XX is the name of the pc

Quote from: Pibemanden

Ahh I knew about the eye, but not that you could buy it.

The shop in the crimson memorial, is where you can by the eye of the soul is called Ghaston Ne'dar's herbs and healing

Quote from: Guardian 452

(well anyone can buy one but why?)

And to be precise yes you can buy it, yes you can activate it, no you won't get any message stating if the person has a imprinted soul stone or not, if you're not a cleric.

Quote from: Pibemanden

It is the bold text I am wondering about... I know how the soulstone system works, with 200+ deaths I know trust me. What I am wondering is what this one part of the sentence is there for?
The eye of the soul pretty much renders this useless, as well as the fact that you probably don't leave your soulstone somewhere random, so it will always be on your person for destruction when it is needed.

RP flavor. This way you can use the eye of the soul to know if the person carries one (ooc info) and rp taking the soul stone in your hands and feel it resonating when it is close to the body and stops resonating when it is further away.

Gulnyr · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:22:40 PM »

I'm pretty sure it's just RP fluff, which is good stuff to have sometimes. Relax. Be mellow. Worry not about the fluff.

It won't ever matter in the game, but, realistically speaking, bits and trinkets could easily go flying during combat. Not everyone is careful with his stuff, even his soul. If a giant picks a guy up and swings him around before hurling him into a tree, he's probably going to lose some things. Pockets could get cut. Whatever. Lots of ways to lose things. After the battle is won and the clerics are picking up the pieces, bringing a stone that flew from someone's pocket near bodies would help determine whose it was because of the resonating warmth, right? But, as I said, it'll never happen like that in-game. It's fluff. And reasonably nice fluff, even.

gilshem ironstone · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2010, 06:21:55 PM »

I just wanted to exploit whatever chink in the armor might exist