Author Topic: New PC having graphics issues w/ Layo (Read 3060 times)

Guardian 452 · « **on:** January 08, 2011, 02:42:06 AM »

Well my PC ive played on forever died last year. I got a new PC w/ Windows 7 but its onboard graphics were no good... so I used my nvidia graphics card from my old PC.

Today I installed all the NWN and Layo stuff. Once I got in game I noticed my characters looked all silver (like the silver surfer) ... **See attached pic* Now if it were just my characters I could maybe just deal with it... but other caracters with newer clothing choices also look like liquid silver in those areas.

I managed to catch Dorg in game and he reccomended reinstalling all the haks...which I did... then I was advised later to get latest drivers for my graphics card.... which I did.

Sadly I am still having this issue. Any ideas?

Hellblazer · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2011, 02:54:09 AM »

You may want to revert to an older graphic driver.. I know sounds odd eh? But the newer drivers have always given me problems with NWN, especially from Nvidia.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:15:41 AM »

Really? But I had this issue before I even updated the driver.

*edit* Why are only some of the newer clothing choices affected if it were a graphics issue?

Hellblazer · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:18:18 AM »

Well when I purchased a new Nvdia card last year I had that same problem. The char became silvery, the horses were like zebras, and the shadows were purple. I went to an older version of the drivers and it solved my problem. Granted I was on win Xp. But I suspect it to be the same problem. The driver you tried to install when you switched card might be newer than the one you were using on your old rig. Also, just out of curiosity, have you disabled the on board card in the bios?

darkstorme · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:18:23 AM »

Depending on the make of card, the driver that came with it might be too "new". What's the model?

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:23:46 AM »

EVGA 512-P2-N757-TR GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Purchased - Jan 2008

Hellblazer · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:26:23 AM »

were you trying to install the same driver you had on your old rig, or did you download it before installing it?

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:30:08 AM »

When I added this graphics card to this new PC I do not recall what I did to get it working.... (what drivers I went and got, what disks I ran). At the time it played the games I was playing with no issues... EQ2 and LOTRO.

So I installed NWN today... all the Layo files and got into the world only to find my dark elf was all liquid silver... I went to Center and noticed the town crier had some articles of clothing that looked normal.. but his arms were liquid silver looking.

I went to my cards site, downloaded and installed its most current driver for my card. I came back into Layo.. no changes.

Thats where I am at now.

darkstorme · « **Reply #8 on:** January 08, 2011, 04:42:41 AM »

The issue there is likely "most current driver".

Previously, when there was a texture issue to do with an nVidia card, the corresponding Omega driver fixed it: Omega Drivers.

Otherwise, I would recommend rolling back to driver version 169.13, which folks on the BioBoards suggest worked with an 8800.

Good luck!

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:10:59 PM »

Tried the omega driver.... still silver clothing on the newer clothing appearances. Also now the entire screen flashes and flickers... I'll be putting it back the way it was.
What file are the new clothing models and colors in? Seems to me that file is my issue.

Filatus · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:30:16 AM »

Some threads pertaining to the issues NWN has with the nvidea 8 series.

Neverwinter Nights: Graphics card issue? Or worse? Help!!!
Neverwinter Nights: Nvidia 8800 GTX
Neverwinter Nights: Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT low FPS

If this is a driver issue, you'll have to try some older nvidia or omega drivers. See what works for you.

I wonder if it's a driver issue though. Seems more like haks aren't loaded properly.

I would just try one thing at a time, including emptying your override folder and redownloading the haks.

Chazzler · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2011, 09:48:09 AM »

Also, the drivers you can download from EVGA's site differ a bit from the original Nvidia drivers, that Nvidia offers from their own site.

Here's the driver for 32-bit Win7 (newest from Nvidia)

And here's the driver for 64-bit Win7 (newest from Nvidia)

I also have had the same kind of problems when I still used a 8000-series Nvidia's graphics card, but the problem was dated to a certain period of driver development. And since the card is not "top notch", I suspect the driver EVGA supplies is still one of that period's drivers.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2011, 06:59:13 PM »

I just cant buy that this is a graphics issue.

Here are some of the new problems I see.

1. If I dont open NWN as "administrator" it crashes and it even crashes sometimes as admin. **not a huge issue others say they have to run NWN as admin with windows7

2. Enzo has a bag in his inventory that if I open it I crash every time. I cant remember what is in it. I think it has some banners and stuff in it. Which would maybe explain my theory that im missing a .hak file. BTW I redownloaded and installed every .hak listed in the dowload section and that didnt help... so Im lost on what file(s) im missing.

3. one of my characers (Dot) her hotkeys wont save. Everytime I log out and in after setting them up they are wipped out. Ive rested and everything... it doesnt seem to help.

4. Everyone who has newer armor apppearances looks like they are coated in liquid metal.

Why I think its a missing file is because it reminds me of when I saved a LAYO character to NWN and then tried to play them in the regular NWN game. Things in my inventory would have these similar white boxes, or look invisible.

So any ideas?

Here is what new appearance items look like in my inventory... these are all cloaks in the chest... they look like white boxes. http://forums.layonara.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=143136&limit=recent

Here is what every character looks like that has "newer" armor appearances. It makes them look like they are made of liquid metal, like the T-1000 from Terminator 2
http://forums.layonara.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=143135&cat=recent&limit=recent

Filatus · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2011, 07:13:11 PM »

Quote from: Guardian 452

3. one of my characers (Dot) her hotkeys wont save. Everytime I log out and in after setting them up they are wipped out. Ive rested and everything... it doesnt seem to help.

Try moving the whole NWN folder to a different drive if you have it. And make sure that nwnmain.exe is flagged to be run as adminstrator.

Dezza · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2011, 07:46:15 PM »

Had a similar problem recently when I updated one PC from Vista to Win 7.

Eventually I had to re-install nwn and delete the desktop icon it creates. I had to ensure it ran in Administrator and I had to create a new shortcut from the launch file in the nwn folder.

Once I did all that and adjusted my graphics settings to a lower setting (despite having a new wizbang graphics card) it played up once or twice but then came good and I've had no problems since.

darkstorme · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2011, 08:38:18 PM »

Another question is whether you installed NWN as administrator. I don't think it gives you a choice, but generally if you want an app to have access to everything it needs, installing it as administrator is a must.

You might be describing symptomology from two different issues, though - the liquid metal appearances does sound like a graphics card issue. Given how hotkeys are preserved, I suspect that one may be a permissions issue (the above administrator run/install suggestion), likewise the crashes.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2011, 09:29:07 PM »

Ive uninstalled and working on a re-install. I was not given an option to "run as administrator" but when I opened the disk and right clicked the setup file I chose... run as administrator. So we'll see how this goes.

Guardian 452 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2011, 10:00:31 PM »

Ok all disks re-installed....

I need to update to nwn v 1.69 right? does that need done 1st or does it matter?

Lance Stargazer · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2011, 10:06:52 PM »

Yep , yep

The Bioware critical rebuild file migth do the trick

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Guardian 452 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2011, 10:45:14 PM »

Ok... all NWN stuff uninstalled. All the left behind haks, tlk's etc deleted.

Complete re-install of all the NWN disks, updated to 1.69. Re-downloaded and installed the files from the download section.

All my characters that have "newer" colors to their armor look like liquid metal still. Also the items that are designed with said colors and styles either are invisible in my inventory or white boxes.

Im still convinced this is some kind of file issue. Because it is ONLY items with the newer colors and designs that are messed up.