Drizzt - 9/11/2005 7:30 PM+3 str, +2 cons, -4 char, -2 int5 points of elemental cold resistance+2 will, +2 fortGains skald abilites upon levelCan only be a Bard, Barbarian, or FighterCan only have 2 classesMost are LawfulECL: 3
steverimmer - 9/12/2005 1:37 AMhmm bards and barbarians cannot be lawful
Talan Va'lash - 9/12/2005 1:38 AM So.. they get the benefits of the class they're taking plus Skaldabilities?Also the stat adjustments are reaaally unbalanced a +2 con is fairlywell offset by a -2 int, but a +3 strength is way more valuable than a-4 cha. It also means they'll be really bad bards.A subrace that only had those stat adjustments and none of the otherstuff would be close to a level adjustment +2Toss in cold resist and fairly big save bonus' and you're getting yourECL up there.Getting the additional class progression is going to peg your ECL tothe point where its not playable.And if most are lawful, then why are two of the three classes they canpick classes that require a non-lawful alignment?Cha isn't only a measure of how good someone is with the ladies, andthe idea that a cultural practice (such as the position of women in agiven society) would give a group a -4 cha is a very ethnocentricperception.I agree that crazy ideas should be shared! I'm just trying to tearyours apart and make you cry. no no! I'm just kidding. But, balance isimportant and balance issues can't always be solved by tacking on anECL.-TV
Varnart - 9/12/2005 5:56 AMJust thought this could be useful for threads such as this one.
Harloff - 9/13/2005 5:55 AMIf a subrace should exist for poeple from the barbarian islands i think it should be something like:5/- cold resistance (they are from the cold north and can't be damaged by cold as easily)Not affected by the cold weather on Krashin since they are used to it, but gain penalties in the desert insteadalignment: non-lawfull (well there is a reason why they are called the barbarian islands, besides they tend to sack leilon from time to time)Classes: Figther, barbarian, bard, (druid, ranger)hmmm... I can't say if the class is at all interesting compared to the problems of making it...-Harloff