Zergon, you failed your diplomacy check. It is not that you point are not valid, it is how they are being presented. You started off with what sounded to me like an ultimatum, and that is why I was asking you to apologize.V3 is hardly buggy. A few kinks, but I am loving layo more now then ever. If you want see what a buggy server looks like, then try playing on a NWN2 server. Let me tell you, when it comes to persistent worlds, that program is a buggy piece of ox dung. Leanthar made the right decision when he chose to not take us to NWN2. Now, that might happen some day, but NWN2 is not ready for layonara.On fear of DMs. It starts with bad RP. It starts with players going places they should not, or using a lot of OOC chatter, or trying to exploit the server in some way to their characters advantage. I started out here on the wrong foot. I started out with bad RP and being fearful of DMs. As a more experienced player, I know now that some of the times I thought a DM was picking on me, it was not the case. The unexpected event that I was facing was the result of another player doing something like dragging a spawn near a transition and leaving it there.That being said, there has been definite times when my character was killed by a DM, lets just say punitive spawn. In my opinion, when ever a DM makes a punitive spawn, there should be follow up. PMs and messages on the forum to explain what happened and why. I have heard players sending me tells worried about bored DMs. I love bored DMs. Some times your character will die because a DM added a critter you were not expecting. I have heard about a character being killed by a DM, and thought, well if that guy was not just running as fast as he could from one encounter to the next, maybe he would have formulated a strategy. But that paladin runs around like berserker on cat nip.Another thing that happens, is that a very high level character comes through an area while invisible. Then your character walks through and gets greased. An inexperienced player, will suspect that a DM killed them, and become fearful of DMs. As far as our topaz expedition goes...The only fatality that we experienced was from a friendly fire death magic spell. So, nothing too off balanced was thrown at us.Nope, some invisible yahoo was blocking me from getting started on the stair ramp. I never saw that mysterious spawn. I have never seen a level 20 character there either, so I am still not convinced that what ever it was, was a DM spawn. It could have just been a level 20 spawn, hmm.AeonBlues
As far as fearing GM's...maybe fear is not the right word, but getting bashed in the forums publically tends to turn people off and have a sense of withdrawal and seperation from the GM's. When a GM comes across as "this is how it is and I don't care what people think" or the "don't like it, don't join" attitude, it makes people shy away from expressing their thoughts on it. And not just to the GM involved, but to all GM's. Some folks, I am sure, feel that if they dispute one GM, then they have just taken on the whole GM team.
Leanthar made $40 in donations last month.
Try # 3I am abrasive.. I will come off harsh obstinant.. angry... and down right mean... don't like it tough luck
I encourage you to give some thought, as to whether this is an effective means to communicate what you are thinking and feeling. In my experience, making people feel angry and defensive is not a good way to be heard, or get a point across.AeonBlues
another note... had you actually read my post the bug was there for 3 days... I believe 2 +1 = 3
I understand only so many resources, and time....But I also understand that players have the same thing and if i'm not mistaken... the players are why you do this.
So you have X amount of resources, and X amount of time (each day) to work on this project. You have 3 servers at least... though your webpage used to boast you were spread across more than that. There are very few people ever on some of these servers (planes for example) and any of them would be well suited as a test server to see how things will be.
I'm MetaPhaze on IRC and you probably don't remember it as it wasn't directed at you... It was more of a question of "how do i join this team"and the response was about as great as some of these i'm getting now.
This kind of offer is appreciated, but for very valid reasons it is something we will most likely not do. The most significant and hard-line reason for this is that the Layonara modules have been "stolen" at least once in the past when access to the module source was more freely available to those who could contribute (i.e. GM and Project teams). As a result, direct access to the modules is restricted to a select few. This probably will not change.
exactly what i expected to hear... no less...another example of why some don't post.
My comments are just getting excuses... no real work getting done.
exactly what i expected to hear... no less...another example of why some don't post.Alright...I'm confused now. What does the desire to protect 1000's of hours of work, manpower and intellectual property have to do with why some people don't post? What am I missing here?your read too far into it... exactly why some people don't post... because they know the answer
One surface area (directly adjacent to Vehl) where neither my Level 5 nor Level 9 PCs feels safe is the road through the mercenaries which leads to the Gloomwood. Going there does not seem to cause a problem, but despite trying to stay strictly on the road on the way back to Vehl, the mercenaries more often than not notice you and follow you through the AT (often long after you think you've made it through safely). Not sure if having an unsafe road is the intention there, but my poor Aeridinite cleric has given up clearing the Gloomwood of undead after having gotten caught and killed there twice. It's a little frustrating, since there's not many places a lower-level Aeridinite can RP their main clerical purpose in life, and the Gloomwood seems as if it should be a nice stepping stone between the Vehl crypts and the much harder crypts of Krandor and Storans.
@twidget658".....I took him into a cave (not named for CNR purposes) and he about got his butt handed to him. I found out that the cave only contained greenstone and copper. My character is level 21 and should not be taking such beatings from the things that were in the cave....."Was that on West? A cave should not be that difficult for west CNR, unless there is something there that I am not aware of at this time. PM me please.
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