Lucinda and Toran

[Acacea]

   

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Originally Posted by drakogear                                           True, there are no dough many Lucindite clerics already and some if not most are possible LG or CG not to mention the Lucindite Paladins. Being TN would prevent Lucinda from having Paladins being that LG is two steps from TN.

That is kind of what I mean by treating them as letters. Yes, it is against the rules to be two steps away from alignment... but why in the world would she have blessed LG protectors to begin with if she is TN? It is much more an issue of not wanting or needing them as a TN entity than simply having letters not match. The disbanded CG sect of the Guardians would be equally shut out, not because of letters, but because of the change in the will of the deity that sponsored them.



Of course, since one is already gone with all the other wards, and the other absent from writeup, the ability to have or not have either is not really an issue. It's more the nature of the deity that would have had either, than the mechanical ability to submit one. I think I would rather stop taking Protector submissions and have all current ones absorbed into the Reaching than take new ones that are also included automatically into it, when it is difficult for anyone else to do so, or insert a new little sect for them, but in that I am alone Actually I always wanted to use good-aligned Spellswords as Lucinda's paladins, and just say that some thing or another about them was a divine blessing.



PS I LIED!

*runs far away from the thread to avoid any moldy vittles*

[jadewillow]

Lucinda:

Members of the Chapter of Protection can freely multiclass between Paladin and Wizard (Abjuration specialisation required)

Members of the Chapter of Change can freely multiclass between Paladin and Wizard (Transmutation specialisation required)

Members of the Chapter of destruction may freely multiclass between Paladin and Wizard (Evocation specialisation required)





Is it pure coincidence that all schools of specialization are contrary to Conjuration? Are pure wizards also restricted to these specializations? Or just Paladin/Wizards?

[Acacea]

Those aren't schools of specialization for mages or the church as a whole actually, but rather specific sects of the Protectors of the Al'Noth, which is the Lucindite interpretation of the mechanical paladin class. They just mean that you can be a general Protector of whatever, but there is, for the Protectors, a chapter for abjurer specialists, a chapter for transmuter specialists, and a chapter of destruction specialists, the only paladins that may freely multiclass with Wizard. They were, at one point, pretty informative in their write-ups but do not transfer to the next generation for multiple reasons.



So you of course may be a specialist of any school and be Lucindite! Trained sects for Protectors happen to have those three.

[Dorganath]

Also, the schools of opposition are an NWN thing, and you'll probably notice that Conjuration is the opposed school of three of the eight, with Illusion opposing two and Divination, Enchantment and Transmutation each coming in at one. Evocation is not the opposed school of anything, and neither is Necromancy nor Abjuration.  I'm pretty sure they did that for game balance reasons, but that's just a guess.



The three specializations for Protectors were chosen because of what those schools themselves represent, not to that which they are opposed.

[Ravemore]

I think Necromancy is opposed to Divination, as I cannot use any Divination school spells and have specialized in Necromancy...

[Acacea]

That means Divination is an opposed school, not the other. He means that the ones listed are not in opposition to any others... so you can be a Diviner and still use Necromancy, because Necromancy specialization blocks Divination, but Divination focus blocks Illusion. No school blocks Necromancy, Evocation, or Abjuration. Does that make sense?

[Ravemore]

Ahhhhhhh... Ok. That clarifies. Many thanks...

[Tanman]

   

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Originally Posted by Pibemanden                                           Xeen is -not- the child of Lucinda and Corath

I think this was implied in an earlier version of some of the Celebrations that was written in the old handbook for Xeen. The night of Flesh and Magic.

   

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""The only day of celebration that has a set date is the "Night of Flesh and Magic", which is also known as Xeen's birthday. Xeenites celebrate this day together with Luncindites, for Luncinda is Xeen's mother. Followers of Corath, Xeen's father, aren't usually invited"

Having checked the new LORE that is not written in. (as it is revised). But thats where the implication of Lucinda and Corath being parents for Xeen would have come from.

[Dorganath]

It was implied...even directly stated...but that lore no longer applies, and it could be said that even that was nothing more than a myth and a rumor when the old lore was valid.



(both of which Filatus and Acacea addressed above *winks*)

[Acacea]

Pibe knew where it came from, was just saying it wasn't the case.



Edit- oops, don't leave reply open without checking.

[Alatriel]

Maybe Lucinda just hates Toran because His paladins are prettier than hers.  



*ducks and runs*