Lesser Planar Binding Shortcoming

[twidget658]

If this is not a bug, then it holds true to its name. I took Lesser Planar Binding, a fifth level sorcerer spell and I got this...
 
 *points to the picture that he hopes makes it into the thread*
 
 If this is not a bug, I request a re-level so I can get rid of it. Thanks for your time.

[Witch Hunter]

It's not a bug... that's "lesser" for 'ya

[Interia_Discordius]

I think it's okay for it to be "lesser," but when Summon Creature III (which is like a third or fourth spell, it's too early for me to remember right now) has better stats and is a lower level spell, that seems sort of messed up.

[Weeblie]

I'm not sure whether this particular summon is bugged or not, but I believe you should not just look at it stats.

If I remember correctly, what's so special with the Lantern Archon is it's very high DR and that it's a spellcaster summon (lots of high level spells lightning spells or something!).

[Interia_Discordius]

What if it's possible to choose from a myriad of "lesser planars?" That'd be pretty neat, like choosing a form to shapeshift into but this time it's a buddy instead of yourself.

[Witch Hunter]

It's an alignment based spell... No need to over-do it.

[Filatus]

As an added note. The spell also serves as a very effective binding spell for outsides, since unlike hold person it ignores spell resistance.

I'm not too familiar with the lantern archon, but doesn't it have spells?

Not all summons are pure bashers.

[twidget658]

I haven't tried it yet. I was trying to catch it early after leveling just in case it wasn't a bug I could possibly re-level to get rid of it. However, from the stats that I saw, there is no reduced damage or a spellbook or anything else showing any special skills. Matter of fact, all of the skill points were in the negatives.

[Filatus]

Might as well add the second of my two cents.

The planar binding summons are the Bioware standard and the good aligned summons are generally far better than the neutral and evil summons. This goes for planar binding and greater planar binding.

Since they are Bioware, they might have quirks. I myself posted about the death slaad (greater planar binding neutral summon), because it just spammed see invisibility and invisibility and it was changed, so it would only have one spell of each to make it more useful.

Now I have no idea what the lantern archon does. But just its char sheet doesn't tell you much. In combat, will it just melee or cast?

EDIT: Twidget managed to squeeze one in between

Spells usually are put in as monsterabilities, so you won

[twidget658]

All right, I cast this summons and went into a battle. It started casting like I expected it would, however, the two arrows was too much for it so it lasted all of about...umm...less than a second.

[Filatus]

Well, if it's a caster summon, don't summon it as a meatshield

You need to be the target, not the summon.

Though, if you compare it to those flying book summons, maybe a bit of dr is not a bad idea. Or put the level on par with the neutral and evil summons.

[twidget658]

Okay, thanks for the input. I can now free up that quick slot and put something useful there.

[Blackguy]

Bug Report
 
Descrition: Usefullness of summon discussed
 
 Location: N/A
 
 Verified: N/A
 
 Reproducable:  Yes