New Loot Alarm System

[Talan Va'lash]

Polak76 - 9/22/2006  1:03 AM
  I rekon a person with a good pick-pocket skill should be able to collect loot unnoticed, that is if they pass a certain criteria.  At least it will make the skill usefull...then again you could always use your dicebag for pick-pocket versus spot and RP it out.

That exact idea was discussed, however with the PvP/theft/rules as they are right now, it was decided against.

There isn't really a difference between stealing something from a PC once they have it in their inventory and stealing loot that just isn't into a PCs inventory yet. Coding a way to steal loot via the pick pocket skill would be essentially institutionalizing a loophole in the no pickpocketing rule.

[Harlas Ravelkione]

Small items, yes. But longswords, armours, shields and bows cannot be picked from a corpse without your comrades noticing... even with 50 in the skill - unless you try to divert their attention

[Wraithdur]

i agree, the LAS is more realistic than otherwise, except perhaps telling you how much gold the looter picked up, that could be more realistic, but for items it's perfect. i saw it a few days ago, very good.

loving the work    

[Stephen_Zuckerman]

And on long trips, you can STILL fudge the numbers. So never fear, rogues and thieves! (This isn't to say, steal everything. Just... A little off the top is very often IC, even if it is just to make splitting the loot easier. *Chuckles.* Though you LG fellows will still have to split every single gold piece properly.)

[Pen N Popper]

I disagree with the stealing.  It should be done IC, if it is done.  If you wish to skim off the top, use the dice bag to roll something for and against spotting the sleight of hand.  If the looter is going to error, they ought to error in the favor of the other players.

My opinion.

[Weeblie]

If someone steals a little bit without OOC-ly telling the other party members, I would still consider that as an OOC-action (regardless of what IC reason one might come up with ).

Though, if the person just sends a "// Listen guys, my character is going to... erh... accidently miscalculate the profit for each person."-message, it would be quite alright.

[jrizz]

no matter how you slice it, that person will find themself on the out side of every party. word will get around. i think that when it comes to looting we should stick to the server guide lines rogue and pally alike.

[Leanthar]

@jrizz, I agree.

@stephen, I disagree with that statement (your latest). It is thought processes like that which causes us to have to clamp down on things and get in to babysitting--not something the team should have to do in a mature and solid community. As PnP stated, use the dice bag if you really think you need to cheat other characters because your character 'would do that'.

[foxfire]

I think when it comes to theft, there always has to be some way (however small) for the people being stolen from to notice.  (spot check or whatever)  If not, it's you being greedy, not your character.

[Leanthar]

"...I think when it comes to theft, there always has to be some way (however small) for the people being stolen from to notice. (spot check or whatever) If not, it's you being greedy, not your character...."

Agreed.

[J-ser]

I finally saw the system on west. Love it.
Though with what everyone else is saying:
In my opinion, you should be able to bypass the system with a pickpocket check for small items, maybe medium for master rouges, but it is against the rules, so there is no use for it.