// So what has happened here is this:// Next, Darthirâe shows up and starts making a similar "lecture" on tolerance, what's "best" for the town and so forth to a man who has already been chosen (along with others) to make such decisions for Hlint. She also makes veiled references to bribes to a man who simply put cannot be bought and will not sell his principles for any reason. Being of shrewd mind, he suspects that she may be working with Fehriel and sends her on her way.
The fact that you haven't even bothered to give a name to this "official"
4] Given a description, it's not difficult for her to determine that the man's name is Jakob Halleran, and he is one of the eight in the ruling council.
// No, Dorg. What happened is that I wrote that Darthirâe started asking around town, sounding out the merchants, and you immediately assumed that she was going to act as ham-handedly as a CHA 6 PC.// You immediately placed her in front of your "Mr. No", assumed that she had done none of her political homework - which I explicitly told you she was doing - and had him "respond" to a conversation she did not initiate, with the assumption that she'd come across about as crudely as one can possibly imagine, which is as far away from Darthirâe's personality as you can get. // The fact that you haven't even bothered to give a name to this "official", clearly means that you weren't taking this request seriously. So please don't pretend this had any IC justification at all.
// No, Dorg. What happened is that I wrote that Darthirâe started asking around town, sounding out the merchants, and you immediately assumed that she was going to act as ham-handedly as a CHA 6 PC.
The official at first greets Darthirâe cordially and politely, even listens to her possibly lengthy inquiry, before narrowing his eyes at her, probably cutting her off in the process. "Lady...I don' know if dat red-eyed lad sent ya in 'ere ta butter me up, but by Rofirein's glitterin' underscales it sounds like yer suggestin' a bribe," he says looking extremely displeased.
// You immediately placed her in front of your "Mr. No", assumed that she had done none of her political homework - which I explicitly told you she was doing - and had him "respond" to a conversation she did not initiate, with the assumption that she'd come across about as crudely as one can possibly imagine, which is as far away from Darthirâe's personality as you can get.
// Unlike the ever-so-good Fehriel, Darthirâe is not at all above making broad hints at "extra true appreciation" to the various political players (as in, "we appreciate what you've done, here is some extra True") for getting this Tinker's Device in place.
// The fact that you haven't even bothered to give a name to this "official", clearly means that you weren't taking this request seriously. So please don't pretend this had any IC justification at all.
// Xenophobia ends very quickly when people start waving very large wads of cash in front of political officials (and if you don't believe that, you don't know politics). This is the equivalent of a Saudi prince offering to upgrade some small Alabama town's fire department for free; "scary muslim" or not, anyone fool enough to turn the offer down flat, would soon be out of a job.
// I accept you may have all sorts of good OOC justifications for saying no, down to the perfectly OK, "sorry, just too busy". I accept that. But every time Darthirâe gets hit in combat because her DEX is 10 and her CHA is 14, instead of her DEX being 14 and her CHA being 10, I say to myself "Well, at least people like her", which is what a CHA implies.
// So this should not be seen as the complete refusal of an OOC request for a mechanical addition to the game, but rather the IC response of an NPC toward two PCs. Afterall, this question was approached in an IC manner and has thus been handled in one.
// Xenophobia ends very quickly when people start waving very large wads of cash in front of political officials (and if you don't believe that, you don't know politics).
// Well this is no slight to anyone here, as I understand that misenterpretation can happen, but now I feel like I should just have brought this in a ooc matter.
// It's fine how you did, Hellblazer, and it's unfortunately one of the perils of text-based communication.
//All right, re-reading my post, I realize it was not something I should have written. Or maybe written just to vent, and then deleted instead of hitting the "Send" button. So I apologize to all, especially Dorg.//Games are supposed to be fun. If you're not having fun, or causing others to not have fun, you have to back off.// I leave it to Dorg as to whether he wants to keep doing this in the forum like this. Either way is fine by me.
// Assuming that they are suffering under some band of fire breathing idiots (say a group of angry paladins who hate worshipers of gods of merchants or crafting - or some such)...
"Who are the present leaders of Hlint?""Are these the same people that make decisions about what is allowed in the craft halls, or is that different?""How did these people get their authority? Do they hold 'shoutings' (medieval equivalent of a town-hall/vote) here? An aristocracy? Some mixture?"
"Are the merchants involved in making these decisions?" // Note: Darthirâe will be exceedingly surprised that the answer, as Dorg has already stated, is "no". This is highly atypical. In most small towns, the merchant-guild/chamber-of-commerce isn't just a political player, they are typically the overwhelmingly dominant one. Money=Power.
"Since they apparently don't listen to you, who do they listen to? A specific church? Some group of aristocrats?"
"What motivates these people? What is the reason for their dislike of commerce, since helping the town economy doesn't seem to be what they care about? Or is it the opposite? Maybe they're underpaid and are just looking for a little extra appreciation?" *shrugs, tolerantly*
"Say that someone was going to bequeath a large gift to the town - that would aid both the town and you personally - but it got rejected by some local before it was even fully heard out. What would you do?
"This would be a Tinker's Device, paid for by a rich 'venturer. You know the type - gambled his life and won? Now he has more gold than he knows what to do with. And he has friends too! You know, play your cards right, and this could be very profitable indeed."
"He's a human Folanite. Woodland ranger. Wild looking. Doesn't have a lot of obvious magic like some 'venturers do, but does use something that makes his eyes glow red. Scary. Still, he's on our side. Keeps the road safe. He helped defend Hlint against the invaders from the crypt. And if they ever return, he's exactly the kind of guy you want to have around. Not a pussycat. Almost makes you pity the red light goblins he kills as a hobby."
Hearing of Fehriel's and many other's Failure a slender elf walks in to the office."Hello, I understand you have been getting complaints that there is no Tinkerers device here"
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