clerics and summons.

[LynnJuniper]

Right, though I think that only affects the 9th level summons anyway.

Animal domain effects all summons making them one level higher than they would be.


Example: (These probably aren't Right)

Summon 1 gives you a dire badger
Summon 2 gives you a dire boar
Summon 3 Gives you a dire wolf

So with Animal domain

Summon 1 gives you dire boar
Summon 2 gives you dire wolf

with an extra hyper powerful summon added onto the end where others would have the standard summon 9. In the case of layonara , depending on your deity it will either be an Ancient Legendary Bear or a Elemental Price of Water correct me if I'm wrong. (Aeridin, Xeen, Folian, Katia, Kith I think with animal domain)

[D Blaze]

I thought Animal Domain affects all summons?

You summon a lvl 2 instead lvl 1......a lvl 7 instead of lvl 6, a special summon at lvl 9

Edit:  err, ya, what she said *points up*

[Dorganath]

To end the guessing...

http://nwn.layonara.com/DeitySummons

[Pseudonym]

Here's (yet) another question. Is an in-game equivalent to that table available/researchable somewhere for PCs?

In other words, with a bit of study, would a PC be able to see something in particular summoned and then be able to make some deductions re the summoner's deity?

[LynnJuniper]

Well, I'd assume so, if the character had a high enough INT/WIS and saw a pattern.

Example: Someone summons an animal, I think its fairly safe to assume a nature god.

Someone summons a demon, Therefore, It may be safe to assume the deity's not of the highest goodness.

Then there may be gods your character has dealt with. Example:

Rhynn knows Lucindites and Aragenites summon golems, and that Ilsarians can summon archers.

[Pseudonym]

Ok, rephrase of the question.

For a character that doesn't like to assume anything, would s/he be able to see something in particular summoned and then be able to make some deductions re the summoner's deity?

[Talan Va'lash]

Animal domain does affect all summons, just as a druid summons are 1 better.

See the info on lore for the final word.

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For the OP, I'm not sure what you're getting at, you can summon a clay golem as your summon 4 or 5 iirc.

[Acacea]

Right yeah, the original question was answered in the first reply; clerics summon ONLY their deities creatures, there is nothing you have to do in order to do so because you have no choice. They don't summon deity things 'like wizards,' wizards have the -option- of setting their summons to be 'like clerics.' So Lucindite clerics get the golem summons automatically.

[lonnarin]

In ammendum, there are also a few spells that allow alignment and level based summons that do stray from the list of traditional summons.  The undead creating ones (which you should only be summoning if non-good and certainly not aeridenite) get progressively stronger as you level.  Animate dead has varying zombies and skeletal chieftains while creat greater undead goes through wraiths, vampires and a lich and mummy I believe. (check LORE for more details) There is also Lesser Planar Ally and Gate which bring alignment based planar beings like celestials and demons and slaadi, and a few nifty epic spells like Dragon Knight for a red dragon and Mummy Dust... my personal favorite for the acid bladed dual wielding mummy lord.  If you are a wizard or sorcerer you can also access Moraken's Sword, my friend Skabot's current favorite minion.

Always keep in mind only to summon things your diety would approve of though, if you are a cleric.  Most of the goodly gods or even the naturalistic neutral ones like Katia and Kitharian are likely to take away your powers if a GM spots one of their faithful animating undead or summoning demons.  I'm not sure how rofirien would feel about an epic caster summoning a red dragon either.

[bowfreak]

I checked the LORE site on summons and they do not match what my ranger can summon for my diety.  Is there info for a ranger?  For a summons 1 I get Dire Wolf, summons 2 gives Dire Bear. This is for Katia.

[lonnarin]

LORE: Druid and Ranger Summons

Ranger's get Dire Wolves, Dire bears, Ancient Dire Wolves and Ancient Dire Bears at 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th lvl summons respectively.  Layonara has them a bit beefier than standard NWN so that near-epic rangers wouldn't have very weak summons at higher levels.

[hawklen]

And rangers need all the help they can get!

[Interia_Discordius]

Is it possible for a wizard/sorc to make a deity summons without following that particular deity?

[Acacea]

No, unless their alignment happens to coincide with it, like summoning celestials as a good wizard. The purpose of the censer isn't to pick your favorite summons, but to be closer to one's deity. That's why it's called the Censer of Arcane Devotion.

[Interia_Discordius]

Blast! I wanted my tiefling to summon a Maralith >.>
**smells a deity change soon**

[silverdraco]

Look to celgar, he has a strange obsession with Golems *winks*

yes I think so they are big and strong and he some of them are made of gems. ;-)



yes yes I'm talking of beryl here. I saw the sommons list with him and I think they would be great to have.